Gavinmad
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Don't know anything about the specific character you're talking about, but I do know that Overkill Software has cranked it up to 11 when it comes to whoring themselves out for DLC with Payday 2.
John Wick (2014)
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Xevy
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He fires 4 shots at him through the glass. 3 are head level and one is lower. He doesn't shoot him when he first sees him because he has to execute the guy he's pinned down and Theon runs. Maybe he doesn't shoot him in the back in the club because he wants him to see it coming. You know, character stuff.
DickTrickle
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Wait, you're saying he didn't fire those shots with the intent to hit Theon? The reason he stopped firing was because Theon went behind a wall, not because he only had back shots. It's a huge convenience of missing those four shots through completely clear glass when he gets everyone else within 1-2. The only reason he missed was because the plot needed him to.
https://youtu.be/w-HSoOFdJ3s?t=117
Looking at the scene again, it's actually five shots.
https://youtu.be/w-HSoOFdJ3s?t=117
Looking at the scene again, it's actually five shots.
Xevy
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That's not what I'm saying. First sight: he Theon in pool. Wick executes the guy just as Theon sees him. Theon runs. He DOES try to kill him behind the glass. 3/4 shots are head level (one is lower but Theon is ducking at the time thus making it head level). Then on the upper level of the club when Theo is running in a towel John doesn't shoot him in the back because he wants him to see it coming. That's why when he does kill Theon he walks up to him and then *bang*.
DickTrickle
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Okay, I get what you're saying. I thought part of the reason he didn't fire in the upper level was because of all the people (he's not into harming innocents, it seems). Still, you can't say it's not plot coincidence that the one time in the whole movie he completely misses five consecutive times is when he's shooting at Theon. It's like this in ton of action movies and if you don't care about minor details it shouldn't bother you but it just made me groan because it felt lazy. All it would have taken to make it more believable is to have some pillars or some other half-wall thing. You can't portray Wick as a super assassin and then have him flub killing the wide open target.
DickTrickle
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Where/how is that implied? That's stretching. Why would a club have bulletproof glass for a walkway in an area that is otherwise totally and completely open? The glass shatters the entire pane into pieces out of the frame it's in. Bulletproof glass wouldn't do that. I guess you can say it affected the trajectory of the bullet but I don't know that it would affect it enough in 2-3 feet after hitting to make it completely miss. But, even then, the bullet placement of the shots are off from where Theon is.
I seriously doubt the filmmakers gave it anywhere near this much thought. I bet the script just says "John narrowly misses hitting Theon as he runs away.
Edit: Also, another thing, if Dafoe is supposed to be protecting him why didn't he just shoot the female assassin instead of placing a bullet inches from Wick's head (a dangerous thing given how much glass can apparently affect bullet trajectory)? He literally only had to wait one more second and he could have killed her but instead he panned down to aim and shoot beside John's head. Well, all that happened that way because then you wouldn't have gotten their fight scene.
I seriously doubt the filmmakers gave it anywhere near this much thought. I bet the script just says "John narrowly misses hitting Theon as he runs away.
Edit: Also, another thing, if Dafoe is supposed to be protecting him why didn't he just shoot the female assassin instead of placing a bullet inches from Wick's head (a dangerous thing given how much glass can apparently affect bullet trajectory)? He literally only had to wait one more second and he could have killed her but instead he panned down to aim and shoot beside John's head. Well, all that happened that way because then you wouldn't have gotten their fight scene.
Xevy
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A: It's a club owned by the fucking Russia mob. I'm going to just say the glass affected trajectory.
B: Dafoe can't outright shoot a bitch with a sniper rifle in the hotel. Then it looks like he assassinated her which is against the rules. Then he's dead for sure.
I'm done. This movie was about a bad motherfucker shooting 86 people in the head. That's what it was. If you want to find gaffes and goofs, that's fine, but none of them affect in the slightest way the core part of this movie.
B: Dafoe can't outright shoot a bitch with a sniper rifle in the hotel. Then it looks like he assassinated her which is against the rules. Then he's dead for sure.
I'm done. This movie was about a bad motherfucker shooting 86 people in the head. That's what it was. If you want to find gaffes and goofs, that's fine, but none of them affect in the slightest way the core part of this movie.
DickTrickle
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1. Yet there's multiple open areas to get around in. Where's the protection there?
2. Shoot the door that she's opening? Shoot her after she makes the kill attempt (obviously not punishable then)?
That's fine. Some people don't mind coincidental plotting, especially in action films (nothing wrong with that as that's just tastes). Just don't pretend it's not doing that is all I'm saying. The movie was about setting up scenes for wick to fight and kill people (no matter how illogically it works), and not a single thing more.
2. Shoot the door that she's opening? Shoot her after she makes the kill attempt (obviously not punishable then)?
That's fine. Some people don't mind coincidental plotting, especially in action films (nothing wrong with that as that's just tastes). Just don't pretend it's not doing that is all I'm saying. The movie was about setting up scenes for wick to fight and kill people (no matter how illogically it works), and not a single thing more.
Xevy
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Hey you're right! And that's why so many of us love it! Have you reviewed and spot-checked Dredd yet?
DickTrickle
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Well, I liked it a lot so it surely didn't have the kind of flaws that would annoy me or the awesome stuff overwhelmed them. It's been a while since I've seen it so I don't remember a ton of specifics.
Also, every character was more interesting to me and I loved it visually far more than wick. The humor was better and dredd felt more realistic within the world he existed in. He felt more interesting and vulnerable because of being trapped and having limited resources while at the same time having a believable enough power differential against those he was fighting. Plus there was a little bit of a story with the partner. Sorry I don't dislike it?
Also, every character was more interesting to me and I loved it visually far more than wick. The humor was better and dredd felt more realistic within the world he existed in. He felt more interesting and vulnerable because of being trapped and having limited resources while at the same time having a believable enough power differential against those he was fighting. Plus there was a little bit of a story with the partner. Sorry I don't dislike it?
Furious
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DickTrickle
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Not trolling. Just didn't it like it much but it's not the worst or anything. You think that's impossible, really? You have to be trolling to say it was the best movie of the last two years. You guys are like over protective fathers about this film.
chaos
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I would say it was one of the ten most enjoyable movies I watched in the past year, for sure. I get if this kind of movie isn't your thing, I don't get why you would then analyze it to the nth degree. You don't like shoot-em-up action movies, got it. They aren't for everyone.
Araxen
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We get it you don't like it. Go enjoy your Safe Haven or any of the other Nicholas Sparks movies. I think those movies will be more your speed and manhood.
DickTrickle
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Did I not say I really liked dredd? So action shooters I can enjoy. This one didn't do anything but I'm not against the genre. Are movie threads only for people who loved a film? I guarantee some of you guys overanalyze movies you don't like or don't understand why others like. I saw it recently and felt like giving my my opinion, something I heard forums are for. Considering how many people here loved it I thought maybe I was missing something, but it was just different values and standards.
Do you guys need a John Wick safe space so you don't have to hear negative things about your baby?
Do you guys need a John Wick safe space so you don't have to hear negative things about your baby?
DickTrickle
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