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Amzin

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I haven't had a chance to test out more jungle builds with her, but I do like Vi a lot. I was going to skip wriggles (just get vamp scepter for sustain) and try to build cleaver -> phage/giant's belt (for mallet/warmogs, whichever you need) -> Zephyr. That's 3 big items which is pretty hard on a jungle, but I really like cleaver & zephyr on Vi. Can also build an Iceborn Gauntlet for Sheen proc + AE slow + some defense if you don't strictly need more hps, and that also gives you tons of CDR which is great on her.

Generally, I like Zephyr on paper on a lot of champs I play, the worst part about it is the combine cost is huge so you get shit for stats building into it. But CDR, 10% MS, some minor damage, tenacity (freeing up alternate boots to merc), and big attack speed is just fun.
 
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EmiliaEQ_sl

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That was the most epic finish i've ever seen.... and i've seen more games / tournaments than i can count. Even more epic than the M5 vs CLG.EU comeback.
 
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seriously, possibly the best play I've ever seen. Def best LoL play.

For anyone that watches the linked replay, but didn't watch the full game. note the superminions up for both teams. Both teams had 2 inhibs and both inner towers down. SK had been pushed off the opposite nexus right before this.
 
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Amzin_sl said:
I haven't had a chance to test out more jungle builds with her, but I do like Vi a lot. I was going to skip wriggles (just get vamp scepter for sustain) and try to build cleaver -> phage/giant's belt (for mallet/warmogs, whichever you need) -> Zephyr. That's 3 big items which is pretty hard on a jungle, but I really like cleaver & zephyr on Vi. Can also build an Iceborn Gauntlet for Sheen proc + AE slow + some defense if you don't strictly need more hps, and that also gives you tons of CDR which is great on her.



Generally, I like Zephyr on paper on a lot of champs I play, the worst part about it is the combine cost is huge so you get shit for stats building into it. But CDR, 10% MS, some minor damage, tenacity (freeing up alternate boots to merc), and big attack speed is just fun.
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You really do NOT need attack speed on Vi, you need CDR. All you need is 3 hits to proc w's terrible terrible damage; Q procs it and E resets your auto attack. CDR will allow more combos and make your passive come up way faster, which makes you way tankier.
 
Khane

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Anyone else have a lot of trouble with the streams on both ESLTV and Twitch? So laggy for me
 
Khane

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Yea they looked really strong. Their early game seems unstoppable, and even when they lose with their early aggression they were still able to come back against one of the best teams in the world in Frost.
 
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Not sure that it is THAT bad, but really have to wait and see what the real notes look like before I will judge. I am excited about the new build path for zhonya's though, fuck you AD champs for cluttering up my mid.
 
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Ronne_sl said:
Latest PBE changes have been mined.

http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22...-2013-loads-of

RIP Shaco if that nerf goes live. Also fml, guess I have to learn another adc besides Ezreal =\
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New caster item that will build into Zonya's I assume.
Plate of the Warmage

+30 Armor
+25 Ability Power

UNIQUE Passive: Killing a unit grants 0.5 bonus Armor and Ability Power. This bonus stacks up to 30 times.

Cost: 125
 
Sidian

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Yeah, those shaco nerfs will hurt a lot if they go live. Not having the constant slow on his E is the biggest hit. Being able to chase someone down constantly is what makes him so strong. Plus 100 less range on Deceive...ughhhhhh, I've been playing Shaco almost exclusively when I have to jungle, sucks because if you don't do work early in the game you are for the most part useless mid to end game. Let's hope they don't go live with those. :\
 
ronne

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I don't know why they are even looking at nerfing Shaco. He isn't exactly dominating games as it is?
 
Ravishing

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Ronne_sl said:
I don't know why they are even looking at nerfing Shaco. He isn't exactly dominating games as it is?
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They nerf parts to make other parts stronger. I can't see shaco being nerfed without some buffs that would help him late game.
 
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EmiliaEQ_sl

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Shaco is a one tick pony... a reverse Nasus/Poppy, a monster early, useless late... And 100% kill rate lvl2 redbuff gank....
If he gets ahead, you will lose the game because the amount of pressure he puts on your lanes is unreal If he gets behind, he's useless.
So tweaking may not be such a bad idea.
 
Amzin

Amzin

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100% kill rate if no one looks at the loading screen and sees a jungling Shaco, maybe. Otherwise, 0% kill rate because it's 100% predictable, since Shaco can't clear the jungle worth fuck all so he HAS to gank.
 
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Amzin_sl said:
100% kill rate if no one looks at the loading screen and sees a jungling Shaco, maybe. Otherwise, 0% kill rate because it's 100% predictable, since Shaco can't clear the jungle worth fuck all so he HAS to gank.
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Pretty much this. It's gotten to the point that every lane starts with wards (or should) that ganking is pretty tricky, even as shaco. It's usually better to just counter jungle early and really screw up the enemy jungler. If you're lucky you'll pull lanes into the jungle to try to stop you, which makes your lanes win harder.

I usually go Wolves > Blue, then decieve over dragon/baron pit and go to the enemy red. You can usually beat most enemy junglers at level 2, which allows you to either first blood the enemy jungler at their red, steal their red, gank mid, then go get your own red, or just troll around pulling enemy lanes to try to stop you which as I said earlier should allow you lanes to get ahead.

Now, yes, even with wards shaco can gank fairly easily, but I tend to find it easier just to fuck with the enemy jungler and then you go gank lanes when you forced their jungler to back.
 
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