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Unfortunately, yeah. We don't know a lot about Sally. We just know the type of friends (gangs of rebellious girls) and boyfriends (tough/sexy guys) she is attracted to. This episode sort of moved her in a positive direction. Nerds gonna dig some pussies.
 
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I like how Don pitched to Ted to win him over. "Harken back to the days when you were happy. You can do that again. Be that person. Younger. With a happy wife and kids. Doing what got you into the business in the first place."

Or for this board, "Imagine what it was like to step into Everquest for the first time. You can do that again. Be that person. Younger, Without a care in the world, playing 24/7. Come, join Random WoW Clone #41, experience that feeling all over again."

And you have the Burger Guy campaign with "going back to a better time with everyone sitting happiliy at the table" thing.

Don's pusing nostalgia.
 
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It was less of a laugh moment and more of a groan moment for me, because it brought back some flashbacks from the same age. If only I knew then what I know now...
 
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That's why it was so great. Because... yup.

And I thought Sally was great in that scene too. You could just see her reveling in this newfound power. But if she was Betty, Jr she would have stuck with the jock.

Nobody is a pussyslayer when it comes to their first kiss and the girl has almost always thought it through more than the boy. In this case the boy hadn't thought about it whatsoever.
 
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Best line of the episode for me was Roger.

Don: "How did you get in here?"
Roger: "Money."

I was laughing for a good minute. Also, man, the guy who plays Roger needs a supporting nod, or a win, for this episode alone. The way his voice cracked when he talked about losing Don? That was amazing acting.
 
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Lithose_sl said:
Best line of the episode for me was Roger.

Don: "How did you get in here?"
Roger: "Money."

I was laughing for a good minute. Also, man, the guy who plays Roger needs a supporting nod, or a win, for this episode alone. The way his voice cracked when he talked about losing Don? That was amazing acting.
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His voice cracked over the notion that Cutler would eventually get rid of everyone, including himself.

Don Draper the certainly gets a lot of fan love, but for my money I'll take Roger Sterling thriving in his element any day. He's not nearly as complex or conflicted as Don (and therefore not as interesting on a lot of levels), but he can always be relied upon to send the emotional pendulum back in the positive direction. I'd love to see John Slattery get an award for his portrayal of Roger, but those types of characters don't get that sort of recognition very often it seems.
 
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Lithose_sl said:
Best line of the episode for me was Roger.

Don: "How did you get in here?"
Roger: "Money."

I was laughing for a good minute. Also, man, the guy who plays Roger needs a supporting nod, or a win, for this episode alone. The way his voice cracked when he talked about losing Don? That was amazing acting.
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That whole scene was pretty good.

"Hey, I've got some news"
"Burt's still dead, right?"
 
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His voice cracked over the notion that Cutler would eventually get rid of everyone, including himself.
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I disagree; I think it was specifically over Don, actually. Roger's reaction with Joan was over the realization that Cutler was cancerous and Cutler would eventually nuke him as well (The whole; is this what would happen if I died?), but in that moment with Don on the phone? I really took it as more of an older brother being scared that the "father" is gone and now he might be too weak to save a family member that really needed his help (In a time when keeping everyone around you seems double important, after a loss). The whole theme with office=family kind of reinforced that. (In other words, I don't think Roger was worried about himself.)

I mean, the words were specifically "now I'm going to lose you too"--not "now Cutler is going to break us up" or something more pertinent to the company. He really was just acting like a leader (or an older brother/father) in that scene, worrying about those that now depend on him--and specifically the one in danger, the one who needed him, was Don.
 
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Lithose_sl said:
I mean, the words were specifically "now I'm going to lose you too"--not "now Cutler is going to break us up" or something more pertinent to the company. He really was just acting like a leader (or an older brother/father) in that scene, worrying about those that now depend on him--and specifically the one in danger, the one who needed him, was Don.
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Oh I thought you were talking about when Roger showed up at Don's apartment and said "Cutler's not gonna stop until no one's left except Harry and the computer. That means everyone goes .../drink ... and you know it". He had that same sort of despair in his voice when he said that.
 
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Another great moment was Bert's leadership speech to Roger. He broke down his philosophy so succinctly. "Cutler has vision.... but he's not on my team."
 
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Lithose_sl said:
Edit: Did anyone get the Stanley Kubrick Space Oddessy feeling during Peggy's meeting? It felt like the start of that scene was ripped right from that movie, or am I seeing things that aren't there?
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Funny, I could of sworn I heard the soundtrack to the movie at the beginning of that scene. I thought the same thing.
 
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My wife stopped watching years ago (maybe season 2), and she's watching season 1 right now. Holy shit, I had completely forgotten the show started in the 50's. Fucking doo-wop music on right now.

It's amazing how far it's come.
 
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It didn't start in the 50s. The first episode takes place a few months into the start of 1960.
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It definitely had a very 50s vibe to it, though. The music, the way the characters dressed and acted, so I see what Elurin means. Comparing the most recent season to the first season it's almost shocking how much the characters and atmosphere of the show have changed (which I assume is a big point the show wanted to make and the reason it started right at the beginning of the 60s).
 
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