Mad Men

Yeah Don's new chick seems so odd. I never put my finger on it but you're right she and Don have absolutely zero chemistry. I can't understand the entire relationship nor what it is supposed to mean. All the scenes with Don and her are just awkward and almost cringy.

I'm happy to see that it may be finally over. I don't think I could stand Don going through another "budding" failed marriage in the last few episodes. I honestly don't see where the season is building to. There really isn't any plot line outside Don's relationship with his kids and his loneliness. I'm not lithose but I'm sure his empty apartment had some kind of symbology or something.

It's the Colonel Sanders and Dean Martin show!


Mad men is going out weird. lol.

I do kinda like the new girl though. There's none of Don's insanity. It's just real the fuck straightforward. No 50 shades of draper. No bullshit.

I mean yeah, she's cute. There's not a lot of chemistry. But that's also sort of the point. He's been going for chemistry and all that. That's actually a sort of growth for Don. Even if he only likes her because she reminds him of what he's never had and thinks he's lost. Wisconsin Farmgirl. You don't need an english degree to analyze that symbology.

I find that entirely possible and even likely.

How will his secretary take his coat when she's too busy getting railed by Harry?

Damn Creepy Glen is all grown up. The fire is still burning for Betty though.

now that was a fan fucking tastic episode, so much good shit in there. Peggy's "why don't you write down your dreams so I can shit all over them", oh god. Betty and Don being little sex magnets and Sally calling him out on it. Its gotta really hurt Don too since it was like the 3d time he was told that in a single day (coasting on good looks). Joan's little adventures were fun, especially her frustration at being a single mom.

Its too bad the writers wasted the first two episodes with the waitress from the sarlac pit of sadness.

and lets not forget

This episode took me back to something Don said to Roger in I think was S1; If I ever leave this place, it willnotbe for more advertising. I think this forecast statement he's working on for Rodger is causing him to take a hard to look at what his own future might hold and he's not liking the prospect of it as an ad man.

Watching that little moment with his son and the milkshakes back at Betty's and realizing what he has missed out on. The real estate agent telling him how pathetic his place looked in spite of being a choice penthouse apartment and what that seemed to say about his life. What Pete said to him in the car on the drive to the golf game with clients about starting life over wanting to do it right but not being able to get beyond the beginning again. The performance review with Peggy where he realizes she hungers for the same things he used to that he himself no longer seems to have an appetite for.

I think we might be seeing the beginning of the end of Don's days as one of the greatest talents in advertising.

That was a pretty brutal "Lets shit on Don!" episode.

I mean he's had that comeuppance due for a while. I guess it's so brutal because Don really knows it too. It's not quite like the drinking thing or any of his other comeuppances. It's not something he did this time. It's what he IS.

BrutulTM_sl said:

She quit her job on her soap opera and moved to California for Don because he wanted to, then he decided not to move and her career went nowhere in California. That's why her mother was telling her that she never should have left her soap.

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Meh, yeah, that's what others have said--I disagree because Don's exact line from that episode was "I don't want you to give up your career, I don't want you to think that." To which, Meagan responded. "There have been all these opportunities in Hollywood, but I never even considered it because I thought it would make you go crazy."---The episode before, also, they made a point of showing how Megan was fucking up on the soap (Not listening to direction ect) So, really Don didn't tell her to leave her show, Meagan wanted to, she had been considering Hollywood for a while--just didn't pull the trigger because she was afraid to make Don mad. (You could make the argument she felt compelled due to wanting to stay close to Don...But that didn't keep her in New York once she felt like she wasn't in the wrong for wanting to be in LA.)

But beyond that. She got the ability to pursue acting from Don. She got her "big break" from Don's connections. In no way was Don ever a detriment to Meagan, at all--not even a little. Even if someone disagrees with the fact that Megan wanted to go to California and thinks Megan left her job "because of Don"--then they'd have to admit she only had that job because of Don anyway.

No part of the relationship, from a professional perspective (In acting), was bad for her in any reasonable examination of her status before and after. The only detriment to her being with Don was the emotional fall out of a break up. But on a professional level (And an economic one, frankly)? She wound up far in excess of her original position (Even without the million). Also, on a personal level, what did she waste on Don, 2 years? And in that two years she was able to take acting classes and build a resume through Don's connections (And live, without working, in Cali reading for work as she pleased)--so it's not like she "lost" those 2 years. I mean this isn't Betty here, this woman didn't give "the best years of her life" to a failed marriage that she spent cooped up in a house while her professional life essentially died. She didn't put all of her "professional eggs" into the marriage basket with Don, and then drop it.

That whole episode was just silly, it actually felt out of character. It took the worst of Megan's qualities I discussed earlier in the thread and amped them up to ten and made her a caricature of herself.

He didn't know his shit was stole till he got back from giving her the million dollar check.

Basically though Don just wanted out. He was tired of trying to be right. He just wanted her to shut up and go away. And he didn't want her to be miserable.

Don has always tried to pay what he views as his debts. And he did convince her to go out to Hollywood (which she then managed to fuck up) and backed out of moving out there with her. You'd might not feel entirely guilty about something like that, but you would admit to yourself that she probably has some basis for being a bitch about it. And plus he figured out she was too young and vapid and a little bit conniving (a little bit) once the infatuation wore off. But by that point he'd already married her. So he made a mistake and decided to pay for it.

They did undercut megan's character too though. But I mean she's kinda been reduced to letting Harry sleaze on her. She wasn't anything much besides for pretty without Don and she's back to being without Don. Don kinda DID ruin her. He just isn't soley to blame. Megan was just young. Don should have known better.

Hence the million dollar apology.

Iannis_sl said:

Don should have known better.

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Who wasn't saying to themselves "he should know better" during the episode where he proposed to her? The series ending with those two still happily married would have been one of it's biggest surprises.

Alex_sl said:

Yeah, Megan has typically been more reasonable than her "you ruined my life" line. I don't know why Don didn't bring up more of a an argument there. I mean...she stole all of his shit (yeah, it was the mom) and he made her life objectively better.

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I mean divorces are rarely full of logical thought and reasoning. Megan has had her thoughts poisoned by her mother. Eventually if you're told the same lie enough it becomes your reality.

yeah fantastic episode i got a little chubster when peggy said fuck her

the show also explained where hentai and mangaporn came from, lou avery turns scouts honor into a strip about octopus' raping buxom army girls

pete finally connected one of his punches. campbells vs the mcclouds, the feud goes back centuries!!! pete is the great-great-great-great grandson of walter frey
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