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Noodleface

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Ample warning, completely broken link. I see no issue with it. You have to work just to see someone die
 

chaos

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Didn't the story go that she was shot several times after having her throat cut though?
 

Sylas

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I'm good with 100%. But if it makes you feel better by saying 99.99% then fine. Yes, there is that off chance that jesus descended from heaven and cleaned up the evidence of the murder/rape from those locations, waved a magic wand and made it like it never happened. Hell maybe the dude is a muslim and Mohammed came down from heaven, helped him rape her? I guess it's possible. If you wanna hold out on that 0.01% feel free.

But the reason I made the post can be clearly seen not 2 posts later. This thread is literally the same arguments back and forth since like page 12. The dust settles, we finally arrive at the point of enlightenment, and someone new finishes watching the documentary and is all like, "did you see this clickbait article written by the prosecutor? omg he's guilty here's some other bullshit that I made up" and the cycle starts over again.
 

Jive Turkey

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I'm good with 100%. But if it makes you feel better by saying 99.99% then fine. Yes, there is that off chance that jesus descended from heaven and cleaned up the evidence of the murder/rape from those locations, waved a magic wand and made it like it never happened. Hell maybe the dude is a muslim and Mohammed came down from heaven, helped him rape her? I guess it's possible. If you wanna hold out on that 0.01% feel free.

But the reason I made the post can be clearly seen not 2 posts later. This thread is literally the same arguments back and forth since like page 12. The dust settles, we finally arrive at the point of enlightenment, and someone new finishes watching the documentary and is all like, "did you see this clickbait article written by the prosecutor? omg he's guilty here's some other bullshit that I made up" and the cycle starts over again.
Well here's an idea: Start posting about the things you want to talk about or get out
 

Cad

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Does this garage look like its been cleaned in the last 10 years? This is 5 days after the murder.

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Cad

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We are all familiar with the blood SA supposedly left on the ignition of Teresa's vehicle right? And that he had a cut on his finger so this is plausible?

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Trollolol, the cut is on his left hand middle finger. Get in your cars tonight and just TRY to rub your left hand middle finger on the ignition on the right side of the steering wheel.

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Slaythe

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But there are some people who are arguing it in such a way that if they CSI out that Avery is guilty, then BAM. The shit shown in the doc is more acceptable. Yea, the broke the law, BUT THEY GOT THE BAD GUY.
I don't think there is a single person here saying this. Everyone, literally everyone understands he got assfucked by the system. Everyone also understands thats by far the most compelling, and devastating part of the documentary. Some people just think there's a possibility that all that is true while he also could have killed her.
 

Chukzombi

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You can't see em but there are like a million tools in back. No fucking way can you clean an arterial blood spray. Even hillbilly dexter couldn't do it
 

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I'm good with 100%. But if it makes you feel better by saying 99.99% then fine. Yes, there is that off chance that jesus descended from heaven and cleaned up the evidence of the murder/rape from those locations, waved a magic wand and made it like it never happened. Hell maybe the dude is a muslim and Mohammed came down from heaven, helped him rape her? I guess it's possible. If you wanna hold out on that 0.01% feel free.

But the reason I made the post can be clearly seen not 2 posts later. This thread is literally the same arguments back and forth since like page 12. The dust settles, we finally arrive at the point of enlightenment, and someone new finishes watching the documentary and is all like, "did you see this clickbait article written by the prosecutor? omg he's guilty here's some other bullshit that I made up" and the cycle starts over again.
Have you ever seen a forum thread before? You actually think there's going to be a point where everyone just agrees 100% on everything and they lock the thread down?

Wtf is wrong with you?
 

Jive Turkey

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We are all familiar with the blood SA supposedly left on the ignition of Teresa's vehicle right? And that he had a cut on his finger so this is plausible?



Trollolol, the cut is on his left hand middle finger. Get in your cars tonight and just TRY to rub your left hand middle finger on the ignition on the right side of the steering wheel.
I think most of us were on board with the blood being planted.


Wait.... isn't that his right hand though??

Edit: It's totally his right hand, man. I don't think that hurts the case for planted blood evidence though.
But to be honest, it looks to be in the right spot to leave blood on that part of the dash (Right hand, middle finger, outer side... mimmic turning a key)... there's even two wipes from the turning the ignition, then returning to the resting position...
But again, I don't think that changes anything though.
 

Jive Turkey

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What? Part of the prosecution states she was cut up in the garage
Stabbed in the chest and stomach was one of the scenarios.

Or do you mean cut up, as in dismembered? Even apart from anything to do with the trial, why would you think a dead person's arteries would spray?
 

Slaythe

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None of the story really matters (in the sense of what actually happened, obviously it matters in the legal sense). There's a reason they didn't even touch the BD confession in Stephen's trial. Any details just muddled the prosecution's case. Kratz doesn't even mention the flip from bedroom kill scene to garage until his closing arguments.

Obviously nothing happened in the trailer and it seems very unlikely (to the point where I think you can probably give the same level of certainty) that nothing happened in the garage other than perhaps the RAV4 being parked in it with her body in the trunk.

At that point you have to take that complete lack of evidence and weigh two different scenarios. Either Avery did it elsewhere on the property, and cleaned it up and/or the cops just didn't care to search after "obtaining" the other evidence in the case. Or the murder happened off the property by someone else entirely and her remains and car were then planted on Avery either by that person or the cops.

Both of those scenarios have tons of unanswered questions, obviously. I just still think its possible either one of them could have happened. The documentary, while doing an excellent job of showing the potential corruption, paints SA as genuine, warm, caring and most importantly completely innocent. Now you guys might argue they do that because there's no evidence to show him otherwise, but I disagree and it's my only issue with the documentary. It's done intentionally because it's easier to sympathize with someone that's innocent.

If you watch a series like The Staircase, you can see the filmmakers take a completely impartial stance and for a documentary that just makes more sense to me.