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Making a Murderer (Netflix) - New info
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Jive Turkey
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I'm not sure comparing metaphorical killing to actual killing is a valid equivalence. Especially when you consider the actual killing was of an innocent third party
I think the likely scenario is the police department believed Avery to be guilty and took it among themselves to ensure he was convicted.
Jive Turkey
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I'm not sure comparing metaphorical killing to actual killing is a valid equivalence. Especially when you consider the actual killing was of an innocent third party
I think the likely scenario is the police department believed Avery to be guilty (perhaps wrongfully) and took it among themselves to ensure he was convicted.
Caal
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How do you think SA feels about your valid equivalence? Oh, and was SA not the original innocent 3rd party in all this?
Jive Turkey
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Irrelevant and completely beside my point. Let's say Steve Avery got robbed. Does me saying "The police department robbed him once when they took 18 years of his life away from him. Why wouldn't they rob him again?" make any sense? It's wordplay and nothing more.
Reminds me of the religious guy on facebook who, in response to me mocking a newspaper headline about some psychokinetic use of prayer (I've long since forgotten what the article was about... let's say prayer keeping a runaway car from smashing into a parked one, for arguments sake), said "If prayer can move mountains, it would have no problem moving a car".... that's not how metaphors work
Caal
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SA said himself he'd prefer death to sitting in prison for the rest of his life. It almost seems like you're trying to downplay living in prison forever.
Put yourself in those shoes. You're being convicted of something that will take you out of everyday life, forever. You tell me how much valid equivalence jibber jabber you'll be interested in.
If that doesn't work for you, try this: Do you think you would be capable of railroading a guy into a life sentence just because you don't like him? I couldn't. That feels like murder to me.
It's not a black and white world, and those people are enforcing the law in the most grey manner possible.
Put yourself in those shoes. You're being convicted of something that will take you out of everyday life, forever. You tell me how much valid equivalence jibber jabber you'll be interested in.
If that doesn't work for you, try this: Do you think you would be capable of railroading a guy into a life sentence just because you don't like him? I couldn't. That feels like murder to me.
It's not a black and white world, and those people are enforcing the law in the most grey manner possible.
zzeris
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I do like how the DA talked about the reputations and livelihood of these cops being smeared by this. Anyone that has lived in a small town knows their cops are dirty. Hell, they are paid to 'collect taxes' on a small, poor population any way they can. Fuck solving what little crime there is. They need to help keep the town, county, etc solvent.
Jive Turkey
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But it's not murder, so it doesn't work for me. You can't just say it equals murder, therefor they were likely to actually murder her too. It's like some weird metaphor non sequitur.
Caal
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The first thing I said when I was done watching Making a Murderer was: "Wow, that show will really pull you out of your naiveness."
Even worse than killing some chick to save yourself some insane settlement, how about what they did to Brandon? That shit struck me as pure fucking evil. I came away thinking MPD were capable of ANYTHING.
zzeris
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Honestly, he should just die for that. I was really sympathetic at first but by the end I wasn't really. The biggest problem is how much the police were willing to do just to get him put away. I completely agree with him being put away but not how they did it. We have enough issues with our government trying their best to take away freedoms without Wisconsin figuring out even more ways.
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popsicledeath
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I commend your commitment to argue any and all points anyone makes and by any means necessary. You truly put the antics into semantics. Never change, Mr. Kratz.
Unrelated. Did you watch True Detective? You seem to be into crime stories so was wondering your take on it.
popsicledeath
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According to the police report he also raped a woman despite having a dozen or so alibis as the police refused to follow other law enforcement agencies pointing them to the actual perp.... twice. To say something is false and cite the police report after all the context we have into account is pretty ignorant. The actual truth is probably somewhere between 'accident' and 'embodiment of evil' either side would have you believe.
It was during a party; other people saw him pour "oil" on the cat and throw it on the fire. Here is some more of your buddy Kratz:http://www.vice.com/read/comedian-je...en-kratz-vgtrn
Now that he has been put through the ringer a bit, I don't hate him quite as much.
popsicledeath
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Hell, if we're going to go on being hyper semantic we could say it was in fact an accident that he threw the cat over the fire because he intended to throw it in the fire. My only point is citing a police report or even criminal complaint itself as fact is ignorant. To then extrapolate allegations into some overblown judgement like that he should die for the act is misguided.
Pretty sure he was drunk at a party acting like a dumb hillbilly with a bunch of dumb hillbilly friends and he's a dick for doing fucked up shit the same way a lot of people are dicks for the fucked up shit they've done and he did his time, so trying to make the leap from him burning a cat to obviously being guilty of murder, or the ignorant fucks that mean since he burned a cat he deserves to be in prison for a murder he didn't commit is ignorant.
If you want to be pissed, be pissed further at the police force that didn't punish him as harshly as some seem to want for the cat incident.
And again, police reports and criminal complaints are full of inconsistencies and bullshit. Just like eye witnesses and first-hand accounts don't necessarily equate to fact.
Pretty sure he was drunk at a party acting like a dumb hillbilly with a bunch of dumb hillbilly friends and he's a dick for doing fucked up shit the same way a lot of people are dicks for the fucked up shit they've done and he did his time, so trying to make the leap from him burning a cat to obviously being guilty of murder, or the ignorant fucks that mean since he burned a cat he deserves to be in prison for a murder he didn't commit is ignorant.
If you want to be pissed, be pissed further at the police force that didn't punish him as harshly as some seem to want for the cat incident.
And again, police reports and criminal complaints are full of inconsistencies and bullshit. Just like eye witnesses and first-hand accounts don't necessarily equate to fact.
Jive Turkey
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popsicledeath
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Yes, sir. I'm too intimidated now that he made that post about how mature and adult he is.