Malaysian Airlines 777 Shot Down (?)

Araysar · Jul 18, 2014

Flight_sl said:
Damning stuff.

I dont beluieve any "intelligence agency" transcript that spells "site" as "sight" or translates a russian phrase into an american idiom such as "holy shit"

Rombo · Jul 18, 2014

Soygen · Jul 18, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
translates a russian phrase into an american idiom such as "holy shit"

What would be a more accurate translation of that phrase?

iannis · Jul 18, 2014

"vodka shits"

"rotten sausage"

"jumpin' bear farts"

Quineloe · Jul 18, 2014

Iannis_sl said:
Just tell us where to drop the bombs. We're not going to shoulder this alone.

That didn't work out too well for our The Man the last time.

Kunduz airstrike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you point and bomb yourself, thank you very much

Famm · Jul 18, 2014

Quineloe_sl said:
So when your local arms dealer sells an AR-15 to a felon, and that felon murders someone with it, is the arms dealer not at fault?

Well, no dude he isn't. Thanks for the terrible analogy though.

iannis · Jul 18, 2014

Quineloe_sl said:
So when your local arms dealer sells an AR-15 to a felon, and that felon murders someone with it, is the arms dealer not at fault?

Same principle here, you, as a country, sell military grade weapons to civilians, you're up when they use them for war crimes.

Actually they're not. They're at fault for selling him the weapon, which is illegal in its own right, but in no way at fault for what he did with it. You're either right or wrong. Kinda depends on how you meant it.

Araysar · Jul 18, 2014

Quineloe_sl said:
So when your local arms dealer sells an AR-15 to a felon, and that felon murders someone with it, is the arms dealer not at fault?

Same principle here, you, as a country, sell military grade weapons to civilians, you're up when they use them for war crimes.

Which groups and countries in the world are felons and which ones are not?

iannis · Jul 18, 2014

Quineloe_sl said:
That didn't work out too well for our The Man the last time.

Kunduz airstrike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you point and bomb yourself, thank you very much

That's just not gonna happen. I think a German of all people would know this.

We simply will not give a shit until it looks like Britain might fall. The Queens ass belongs to US.

Quineloe · Jul 18, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
Which groups and countries in the world are felons and which ones are not?

I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to provide military grade weapons to civilians, thus any civilian receiving a BUK missile system is automatically a felon.

Let's cut this short, because we'll agree to disagree:

You are responsible when people you had no right to legally sell weapons to misuse these weapons.

And you're disagreeing with that. Let's move on.

1987 · Jul 18, 2014

Soygen_sl said:
What would be a more accurate translation of that phrase?

Russians do not express surprise. They are already dead inside and are simply waiting to go.

Araysar · Jul 18, 2014

Running Dog_sl said:
Malaysia Airlines crash: flight recorder found as anger at Russia mounts ??" live updates | World news | theguardian.com

... so we now have an alternate version of what happened, with this being a Russian Buk system sent across the border to Donetsk, and that the reports of rebels seizing control of a Ukrainian missile system were a cover to explain how the rebels suddenly had access to sophisticated anti-air capability.

Sounds like a Ukrainian cover to cover their own ass and pin this on the separatists. Pretty transparent.

iannis · Jul 18, 2014

So more like relief? "Finally comrade... finally"

Running Dog_sl · Jul 18, 2014

The downing of MH17 was the main story on the front pages of most of most newspapers around the world on Friday, but not Russia, writes Shaun Walker.

The state-run Rossiiskaya Gazeta led with a story about the eating habits of Russians, relegating the 298 deaths aboard MH17 to the bottom of the front page.

Other Russian newspapers led with stories about US sanctions on Russia, including the respected Vedomosti, in what was either a strange editorial decision or a conscious plan to play down an attack that much of the world was already linking to Russia.

State television reported the incident, but claimed that it was Ukrainian army missiles that shot down the plane. Channel One on Friday said the Russian Defence Ministry had spotted missile radar activity in Ukraine on Thursday.

More outlandish theories, such as the idea that the plane?s red-white-blue colouring had meant that the Ukrainians mistook it for Vladimir Putin?s presidential jet and thus shot it out of the sky, were jetisonned after an initial airing.

The Russian Twittersphere was awash with conspiracy theories about Ukrainian or even US involvement in the downing of the plane. The boss of the Kremlin?s English-language television channel, Russia Today, wrote on Twitter that she despaired of people jumping to conclusions about what had really happened, shortly after retweeting an opinion saying that Ukrainian ?freaks? were behind the attack but would attempt to blame pro-Russian rebels.

However, one of the channel?s British reporters, Sara Firth, appeared to go off message with a series of disparaging tweets in which she said the channel?s reporters were engaged in ?lies?. In comments that are likely to embarrass the channel, Firth wrote:

?We do work for Putin. We are asked on a daily basis if not to totally ignore then to obscure the truth?.

MH17 crash: Russia dismisses Ukrainian claims of involvement - live updates | World news | theguardian.com

Ko Dokomo_sl · Jul 18, 2014

Two of the passengers were Newcastle United fans travelling to New Zealand for a pre-season friendly.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20140...281670_4014219

Famm · Jul 18, 2014

Ko Dokomo_sl said:
Two of the passengers were Newcastle United fans travelling to New Zealand for a pre-season friendly.

Well that changes everything! Fuck the AIDS researchers, we need to do something about this there weresoccer fans aboard!!!

Araysar · Jul 18, 2014

Quineloe_sl said:
I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to provide military grade weapons to civilians, thus any civilian receiving a BUK missile system is automatically a felon.

Let's cut this short, because we'll agree to disagree:

You are responsible when people you had no right to legally sell weapons to misuse these weapons.

And you're disagreeing with that. Let's move on.

The separatists in ukraine are not civilians. They have their own government and army

Quineloe · Jul 18, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
The separatists in ukraine are not civilians. They have their own government and army

And are they an internationally recognized country?

Famm_sl said:
Well that changes everything! Fuck the AIDS researchers, we need to do something about this there weresoccer fans aboard!!!

*aehm* for the next 4 years, the sport is called Fu?ball. Thanks.

Someone edit the 2014/2015 season thread title already.

iannis · Jul 18, 2014

HOW DO YOU GET THE ESSET?

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sweeeeeeeeeeeet

Fu?ball. So noted.

Araysar · Jul 18, 2014

Quineloe_sl said:
And are they an internationally recognized country?

*aehm* for the next 4 years, the sport is called Fu?ball. Thanks.

Someone edit the 2014/2015 season thread title already.

Who gives a fuck whether you recognize them or not to impose your ridiculously arbitrary civilian definitions of gun laws and felonies?

People dont need your recognition, approval or a uniform to fight for freedom. All they need is a weapon and a hatred of tyranny.

By the way, a gun dealer is not responsible for a crime committed with a weapon he sells

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