Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Hoss

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Relevant for @Mrs. Gravy

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Also, wtf, while tagging Mrs G, I saw we have an @Mrs. Fields I'm going to assume she posts in the cooking and fast food thread and go check those out now.
 
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TrollfaceDeux

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if a girl likes you, wouldn't you...know? why chase a woman who doesn't like you at all?

so much time wasted.
 
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Phazael

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Mrs G this is going to be painful to hear but men don't want female friends

Don't fight me on it, it's 100% true

This. If you want to be nice, you need to crush their feelings utterly, otherwise the 1% rule is in effect. That rule is, if taking a given action has at least a 1% chance of getting you laid, there is a 99% chance you will undertake said action as a male. Plus these guys are essentially beta clingers, from the sounds of it.

Of course if you want to be evil and get free shit and an emotional tampon, abuse the shit out of them. ITs probably all they have so they will likely be happy for that sad level of interaction with a woman.
 
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Kirun

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Mrs G this is going to be painful to hear but men don't want female friends

Don't fight me on it, it's 100% true

This has a caveat. There are women that I am completely platonic friends with. However, it's because I know they have hot friends in their social circle, or the potential to have hot friends in their social circle.

Sometimes that fairy tale ending of a persistent dude works out. One of my roommates from college was absolutely infatuated with this girl he went to high school with. Pursued her multiple times. Confessed his love to her and all that. Rejected multiple times. They're married now.

There are ways to be persistent or stay on a woman's "radar" without being "needy". The real key is to not seem needy whatsoever.
 

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all about the body language and situation bro. some women love that shitt.

Or more likely, she exhausted all of her other options (or ran out of ways to lead you on) and caved in. Not the most alpha tactic, but if you got your dick wet, then mission accomplished I guess.
 

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This has a caveat. There are women that I am completely platonic friends with. However, it's because I know they have hot friends in their social circle, or the potential to have hot friends in their social circle.



There are ways to be persistent or stay on a woman's "radar" without being "needy". The real key is to not seem needy whatsoever.

This is actually sound advice. There is a difference between keeping female friends (one or both of you are married and do couple shit or one or both of you grant access to greener pastures) and being friendzoned. There is also a massive difference is making yourself an available future option and desperately clinging to some girl for a chance at escaping the friendzone.
 

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Or more likely, she exhausted all of her other options (or ran out of ways to lead you on) and caved in. Not the most alpha tactic, but if you got your dick wet, then mission accomplished I guess.
people are rational. you put out X and you let them compare you with Y Z R. If he/she is ready, it comes down to when and not if.

Desperation is the beta shit.
 

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beta clingers

Beta orbiters is the phrase my daughter uses because they come around and give her free shit once in a while. I tell her it's wrong and what they're after. She says she doesn't know what else she can do other than just be mean, and even that might not work.
 

Phazael

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Well there's the first problem with this post

Khane and I have had our differences of opinion in this thread, but this statement right here is beer worthy in my eyes. Trollface, if you think ANY woman can work out relationship shit rationally, especially in your age group, well then I look forward to your further contributions in this thread. No woman uses logic in evaluating relationship criteria, unless she is the deadest fuck alive on the planet.
 

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There is also a massive difference is making yourself an available future option and desperately clinging to some girl for a chance at escaping the friendzone.

Guys tend to also forget how fickle women can be. Especially since they are so dominated by emotion. I've had women I've slept with text me the same/next day, tell me how wonderful/amazing the date/sex/etc. was, then act like they could give a shit less/hate my guts 2 days later. Then, 3 months later they are texting/calling me, wanting to hang out again. Just because a woman had an amazing time with you last week, doesn't mean that she isn't now fighting with her Dad and thinks her fucking life is a total wreck, she hates the world, has sworn off men, etc. the following week. Only to eventually get through that particular emotional roller coaster, feel better, and then want to bone you some more.

Patience will fucking pay off, especially if you aren't putting all your fucking eggs in one basket(e.g. - assuming that she's the ONLY girl you're ever going to be able to attract). If a girl is throwing you shit, drama, etc., just start texting/hanging out with other women until she handles her shit.

Just being an emotional fucking Gibraltar and not letting anything phase you will open your access to all sorts of women. You really have to project an attitude of being the coolest motherfucker in the room and truly be congruent with the assumption that you never get rattled. It really is projecting an aura of..

Girl: "I really like you! You're awesome!"
You: "Cool"
Girl: "I fucking can't stand you! You're a fucking douche!"
You: "Cool"

Now, that isn't to say you need to have some sort of stoic, stoner type demeanor, but you truly do have to own the fact that there are literally billions of women out there and plenty of them are willing to sleep with you. Many aren't, but plenty are.
 
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The rock shit is fine, in a long term committed relationship/marriage once you are older. But both men and women are so fucked up and easily distracted/confused when they are in their sub-early 20s that there is no point in even trying to be that guy at that age. Once you pass 30 or so and are dealing with women who have been around and know what the fuck they actually want, then its time to man up and be that guy. Before then, its just foolish.
 

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The rock shit is fine, in a long term committed relationship/marriage once you are older. But both men and women are so fucked up and easily distracted/confused when they are in their sub-early 20s that there is no point in even trying to be that guy at that age. Once you pass 30 or so and are dealing with women who have been around and know what the fuck they actually want, then its time to man up and be that guy. Before then, its just foolish.

There's plenty of reason to try and be that guy, especially in your 20s. The sooner you learn that shit, the faster you're going to be able to attract a lot of girls. Now, it isn't something most guys can learn/do very easily, but that shouldn't stop you from trying to genuinely have that attitude as early on in life as possible.

Not only is having a demeanor that projects outcome independence going to help you in your dating life, but it'll help you in your work/career, dealing with family, etc.
 

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Not only is having a demeanor that projects outcome independence going to help you in your dating life, but it'll help you in your work/career, dealing with family, etc.
I find these type of people that I can connect with more so than some kids who want to fit in.

incredibly rare to find them but they exist.
 

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So first friend zone dude calls or texts me every day. Other friend zone dude brought me coffee...to my office...I have been up front with both of them about friendship with no additional benefits or romantic future...more than once and directly with "I will eat lunch/dinner with you...but only as your friend, I have no intention of a romantic or sexual relationship with you." I apparently not good at this & must be doing something to project a possibility of pants action/romance for them. I do not want to be mean or considered a cunt but fuck. Do I just stop replying? I have known the one since grade school, the other h s. and will see them often enough for them to be uncomfortable...are women just not that up front? BTW...I am super friendly with everyone ...men, women, whatever gender identity... just don't feel I should have to change that for someone not figuring out I mean what I say. Guess I will just accept food and beverages without guilty feelings.

I think I just answered my own question, but feel free to comment at your pleasure.

Never turn down free food. Unless you're reasonably sure it was roofied.
 

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Reminder: I am not an SJW or a Mist.
Please refrain from further a_skeleton_02 promotion my direction.
Thank you.

I think i'm about six months away from sealing the deal with Misty. I'm pretty sure. Life has just about beaten her down enough. She'll crack, and I'll be there waiting. But Tiggs is stiff competition. As soon as this most recent infatuation wears off he'll be right back to it.

See, now if I were Alpha i'd probably just knife him. I could do that. That would work. But I'ma betacuck when you get right down to it. I don't wanna do it that way. I want better for him than that. Plus when the racewar comes... well, you see.

It takes a strong woman to make a good man. Tiggs isn't a good man yet, but I know he could be. You see where i'm goin with this? Cycle of life. Wisdom accentuating Passion.

I WANT DAT MIST BOOTY AND I DON'T WANNA SHARE. WITH OTHER DUDES.
 
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