Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Frenzied Wombat

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I have tried throughout the general threads to say that a single life, while easier and arguably more 'fun' is ultimately meaningless in both the religious and non-religious views. From a purely non-theistic viewpoint we are here to sire our progeny with desirable mates and see them live long enough to sire their own with more desirable mates. All data available points to marriage being the best and most efficient way of achieving that goal. It has the side effect of giving your life purpose in the face of all adversity. Finally, your progeny take care of you when you are too old and infirm to do it yourself. This is an oft overlooked fact that is now settling in to the every day lives of my parents and older co-workers.

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You are right about the evolutionary benefit of marriage. You just left out one thing-- all the components that comprise the original definition of marriage no longer exist. Power dynamics, division of labor, fidelity-- you name it-- it's all gone in favor of the Choose your Own Adventure scenario we have now.
 
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Forgot if I brought it up before, but my uncle and his wife were 6 months from retiring and moving down to a house they bought in Florida. Never saw them fight or not be happy together and then one day he literally comes home to a dear John letter and shes already gone with all her shit packed up. Now instead of retiring he's spent the last year splitting up accounts, selling the Florida house, paying off and splitting the difference on mortgages, retirement accounts etc etc. Good times.
 
Khane

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Good times indeed... but on the bright side now he can move down into one of those retirement communities with no strings attached. I hear they are debaucherous orgy fests these days!

Silver Linings!
 
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“Hey guise, do what you want, I'm not trying to sell you on being single. But this thread contains approximately 1690 pages of divorce horror stories, so the "you just need to find the right one", or "you're jaded and bitter" seems kinda weak.”

For every divorce horror story in this thread I would bet there is an opposing non-horror story. Just because those who speak up the most in a thread like this tend to have had bad experiences doesn’t mean that only bad experiences result from marriage.

Finding the right partner doesn’t have to mean soul mates or “the one” or any fairytale bullshit like that. It means knowing yourself well, being patient and being lucky enough to find someone that over time you can reasonably trust to have goals and values that match your own. It’s not romantic - it’s calculated. But that doesn’t mean it can’t have many fulfilling elements of attraction, romance, friendship, intimacy etc.
 
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She knows how to turn me on and does really kinky shit and even let's me live out some fantasies , but she's never like fucked my dick off or anything. I'm definitely the pounder during the act. We use the vibrator and she gets extremely close but says "it's too intense". I feel like she needs a masturbation coach because I can't imagine what a female orgasm feels like. I feel like she's holding back but who knows. I can't do it for her.

She used to do crazy shit when we were dating like tell me to go down random streets on the way home and then just start sucking my dick when I drove or she'd fuck me in the sunroom while her parents watched TV in the adjacent room with both doors open. Or the time she made me fuck her in front of the window so everyone could see if they looked.

She sucks dick like a porn star but she does not fuck like one unless I do it
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I asked because if your partner isn't willing to learn how to please you it suggests she is closed off and then you have to wonder why. That's clearly not the case here. She sounds like she just has a valid physical issue with the way her body works.

That sucks man...I feel for both of you.
 
Jackie Treehorn

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1. If you make a good living and aren't a fatty you can get laid all you want, trust me. It's called Tinder and Millenials with daddy issues. I get laid without even having to move from my couch.
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This part is absolutely true. I've in the past three years in my mid to late 30's had sex with 18 year olds still in highschool (she provided multiple forms of ID,) to women in their early 50s, and everything in-between, all from Tinder / Bumble / Okcupid.

I have above average looks for my age (39, I'm nothing special, but I have some muscle and look younger, full head of hair that's still dark, etc, back on the old boards I think I posted a pic of myself minus face,) and I make >100k and have my own place in the ritzy-ish suburb of San Ramon outside of SF.

To reiterate again:

While it was good in the moment, and I will undoubtedly have more casual sex until I find someone, I do not look back on any of this with any particular fondness. None of it got me anywhere emotionally or brought any real fulfillment. None of it. I'd say the only real "learning experience" from all this for me is that I "got it out of my system." Prior to living here and having grown up in a relatively small area this kind of thing wasn't possible. I moved out here and it was novel that I could fuck women so easily without much work. That makes it all the more meaningless over time.

From my perspective, dreaming about fucking more women at night isn't what keeps me excited or awake. Wondering if I'll find someone for a long term relationship does.
 
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Lanx

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1. I call bullshit on "You can bang all you want". I'm sure there's a subset of the population for who that's true, but it's far from universal. I definitely get more sex now than before. Plus, it was a lot of fucking work to get into a fresh set of panties.

2. Saving money. Seriously an ex wife may be pretty expensive, but a wife is way cheaper than a girlfriend. Also, with a wife I don't goto strip clubs nearly as much which leaves me more money for my gun collection.

3. She can't be forced to testify against you. You may laugh but this one is an important difference between a wife and a live in girlfriend.

4. Along the same lines as 3, having someone to bounce ideas off and help with your plans.

5. A woman's nesting instinct makes your home better even if it is a pain in the ass. Because of my wife I have my awesome deck and carport now, among many other things.

6. Everyone will have a skillset they bring with them that I can't enumerate here. For instance my wife is a saver. She's basically doing most of the heavy lifting for our retirement savings.


And hey kaine, I was 36 when I got married.



Girls who are squirters say this. Does she feel like she has to pee? You're in for a hell of a ride if she turns out to be a squirter.
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yea i agree

i also don't believe marriage is for men, if you're a man that wants to get married, you're a fucking fag.

You either marry for circumstance(preggers), for the woman(she wants to safety of marriage), or for $$$ (like the dumb bitch that married the prince)
 
Oblio

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yea i agree

i also don't believe marriage is for men, if you're a man that wants to get married, you're a fucking fag.

You either marry for circumstance(preggers), for the woman(she wants to safety of marriage), or for $$$ (like the dumb bitch that married the prince)
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This part is absolutely true. I've in the past three years in my mid to late 30's had sex with 18 year olds still in highschool (she provided multiple forms of ID,) to women in their early 50s, and everything in-between, all from Tinder / Bumble / Okcupid.

I have above average looks for my age (39, I'm nothing special, but I have some muscle and look younger, full head of hair that's still dark, etc, back on the old boards I think I posted a pic of myself minus face,) and I make >100k and have my own place in the ritzy-ish suburb of San Ramon outside of SF.

To reiterate again:

While it was good in the moment, and I will undoubtedly have more casual sex until I find someone, I do not look back on any of this with any particular fondness. None of it got me anywhere emotionally or brought any real fulfillment. None of it. I'd say the only real "learning experience" from all this for me is that I "got it out of my system." Prior to living here and having grown up in a relatively small area this kind of thing wasn't possible. I moved out here and it was novel that I could fuck women so easily without much work. That makes it all the more meaningless over time.

From my perspective, dreaming about fucking more women at night isn't what keeps me excited or awake. Wondering if I'll find someone for a long term relationship does.
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Like I tell my single friends that are similar to you. "I don't want your life, but I want all the details."
 
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Khane

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"She had no idea what she was doing... because she was 18 years old. It was terrible"
 
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Jackie Treehorn

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Like I tell my single friends that are similar to you. "I don't want your life, but I want all the details."
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Details:

Matched with a 19 year old on Tinder. Nerdy Chinese teenager. Face was nothing pretty, but she was a high school wrestler with gigantic tits for an Asian girl who wasn’t fat. They were really fucking nice. She was 5’6” and probably 140 pounds or so.

I assumed she was in college. We got to talking and exchanged phone numbers. She tells me she’s in high school still and is actually 18.

I immediately thought she was underage or was afraid of that. She took a picture of her driver’s license and her computer profile at school that showed her turning 18 in 2018 months before I met her last year.

First time I met her:

She lives with her parents in Newark which is south about 25-30 minutes. I picked her up since her parents weren’t home. She had school the next day, she was like 2-3 months before graduation.

She gave me a blowjob in my car and let me finger her on a dark street close to where she lives.

After that:

Next time I took her to a hotel. She said she didn’t want to have sex but was open to anything else. We ended up spending the night there doing oral on each other and cuddling.

Around a month later after one more time of doing oral stuff with her we finally had sex. It actually wasn’t bad at all as she was super sexual and wanted things rough. She bit me really hard and left a hickey on my neck that I got pissed off about and didn’t go to work the next day because of it. I’ve had worse sex with older women by a long shot. She just writhed around and fucked really hard / wanted to be fucked hard.

I ended up buying her two vibrators since she said she’d never used one. We met up twice after that and we moved on.

I’ve talked to her a couple of times since and she said she’s been dating a 50 year old guy in Sacramento the past few months. She admitted to me she has a fetish for older men.

In her Tinder profile she was wearing a ball cap that said “old guys rule” or something like that.
 
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For every divorce horror story in this thread I would bet there is an opposing non-horror story. Just because those who speak up the most in a thread like this tend to have had bad experiences doesn’t mean that only bad experiences result from marriage.
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A while back in this thread the married guys started posting shit like "Got home tonight and the wife had dinner on the table, then she sucked my dick in the shower". Between all of us, we could easily do multiple good marriage posts a night. But it got boring.
 
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Jackie Treehorn said:
Details:

Matched with a 19 year old on Tinder. Nerdy Chinese teenager. Face was nothing pretty, but she was a high school wrestler with gigantic tits for an Asian girl who wasn’t fat. They were really fucking nice. She was 5’6” and probably 140 pounds or so.

I assumed she was in college. We got to talking and exchanged phone numbers. She tells me she’s in high school still and is actually 18.

I immediately thought she was underage or was afraid of that. She took a picture of her driver’s license and her computer profile at school that showed her turning 18 in 2018 months before I met her last year.

First time I met her:

She lives with her parents in Newark which is south about 25-30 minutes. I picked her up since her parents weren’t home. She had school the next day, she was like 2-3 months before graduation.

She gave me a blowjob in my car and let me finger her on a dark street close to where she lives.

After that:

Next time I took her to a hotel. She said she didn’t want to have sex but was open to anything else. We ended up spending the night there doing oral on each other and cuddling.

Around a month later after one more time of doing oral stuff with her we finally had sex. It actually wasn’t bad at all as she was super sexual and wanted things rough. She bit me really hard and left a hickey on my neck that I got pissed off about and didn’t go to work the next day because of it. I’ve had worse sex with older women by a long shot. She just writhed around and fucked really hard / wanted to be fucked hard.

I ended up buying her two vibrators since she said she’d never used one. We met up twice after that and we moved on.

I’ve talked to her a couple of times since and she said she’s been dating a 50 year old guy in Sacramento the past few months. She admitted to me she has a fetish for older men.

In her Tinder profile she was wearing a ball cap that said “old guys rule” or something like that.
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That, somehow, was an even bigger letdown than "She had no idea what she was doing... because she was 18 years old. It was terrible"
 
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Sorry gav. Real life is not like manga. Asian girls don't have tentacle pussies. None of them.
 
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Jackie Treehorn

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That, somehow, was an even bigger letdown than "She had no idea what she was doing... because she was 18 years old. It was terrible"
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Unfortunately none of my casual sex stories are particularly outrageous.

I guess I’ve got some funny anecdotes I could think of and post later.

I’ll post one to start:

Matched with a stoner girl on Tinder. Pretty face, decent body, 30ish years old.

I was living in Oakland at the time and she invited me to her place. She was, not surprisingly, stoned out of her mind. I’m not a stoner, but she was doing what I think are called dabs, where you have this apparatus that burns wax into smoke.

She had told me via text ahead of time she was on her period. I said I didn’t mind. She said she wanted to see my dick and that she’d make it worth my while. Okie dokie.

I get there and she’s smoking from this dab thing. We sit on the couch and talk when she’s done. I started rubbing her arm, she starts rubbing my crotch over my pants.

She pulls my dick out and starts to give me a handjob, which moved into her blowing me. I start taking her tits out and stuff like that.

I get all worked up and want to fuck her. I’ve had period sex many times, it’s no big deal. So we go to her bedroom, I put a condom on, and start to fuck her. She was just super bloody. It totally threw me off after I looked. Almost instantly lost my hardon. I flat out told her it was too much for me, and she told me it was no big deal and she took me to the shower to clean off.

Ended up never seeing her again and lost a $120 jacket at her place.
 
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Gavinmad

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Sorry gav. Real life is not like manga. Asian girls don't have tentacle pussies. None of them.
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