Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Khane

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I am confident all of you, as respectable adult human beings, wouldn't walk over to someone and spit in their food. You wouldn't shove a child out of the way to get a better view of the fireworks, and you wouldn't walk up to a stranger and call his wife a whore. I am certain you would all take issue with seeing this done to someone else in your general vicinity and you may even be bold enough to speak out against it at that time. Yet you're indifferent to the act of a man or woman sleeping with someone who is married. I can't wrap my head around that.
 
BoldW

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I hear ya, and maybe think of it this way: Personal values vs. any "blame". Maybe Onoes should have higher standards and values and not do married chicks. He'll feel better about his sex life and not get his ass beat as often. That would be an ideal situation. But to put blame on Onoes is misplacing it as it all belongs on the woman, who is the one who broke any vows, values, or morals she had in her relationship with her husband. Does that make sense?

It's not too off topic since we're still talking about Onoes sex life in a way. I'm surprised the thread title hadn't been changed long ago.

edit: My second wife would get hit on all the time, often right in front of me. This did not upset me, as I had faith in my wife (misplaced as it was). I did not expect other guys to not fuck her - I expected her not to fuck other guys.
 
Tarrant

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The onus isn't on Onoes, myself, nor anyone else to stop all the ills of the world, or prevent people from being immoral scumbags. As long as I'm keeping my side of the street clean, why should anybody be held partially responsible for somebody's choice to act wrongly. Onoes made no such vow to this woman, nor did he make one to her husband. If Onoes hadactivelypursued this chick, sure, that's inching into scumbag territory. However, like Tarrant said, even then, the husband of this chick placed his trust/faith in her, not in Onoes. Do you walk down the street assuming everybody has a "responsibility" not to want to fuck your wife? That's not how it works.
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Pretty much this. I don't give a shit what other people do outside my family/circle of trust. (insert meet the parents reference here). I have faith and trust the those closest to me wont hurt me. IF they do, fuck them and them alone.
 
Tarrant

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Khane_sl said:
Yet you're indifferent to the act of a man or woman sleeping with someone who is married. I can't wrap my head around that.
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Where did I say I'm indifferent? I said I don't support it, I just stated where the full blame for the act is in my eyes. My wife broke my trust, not the people she fucked. Those people mean nothing to me, I'm not invested in them what so ever.
 
Khane

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Yes, the onus is on Onoes to be a dignified human being who is respectful to himself and society. It's about being a decent person.
 
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Khane_sl said:
I am confident all of you, as respectable adult human beings, wouldn't walk over to someone and spit in their food. You wouldn't shove a child out of the way to get a better view of the fireworks, and you wouldn't walk up to a stranger and call his wife a whore.
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I would do all of those things.
 
Khane

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It's not that I'm angry, I just think it's despicable and I'm letting him know. Like I said, I'm not a fan of apathy.
 
Kirun

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Khane_sl said:
Yes, the onus is on Onoes to be a dignified human being who is respectful to himself and society. It's about being a decent person.
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If people want to hold themselves to a higher "standard" and not sleep with people in relationships, fine. If people don't do it because of the drama it invites, that's also fine. But, to actually put the blame on that person? Are you fucking serious? So, if a kid runs out into the middle of the street and gets hit by a car, and I witness this, I am partially at fault for terrible parents letting their kids run amok?
 
Khane

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What the hell is wrong with you? I successfully avoided the analogy wagon and you just ran it into a ditch. You have no choice in the situation you outlined, you didn't have time to think. You didn't actively see the kid in the road and then make a conscious decision to run him down. And yes, that's how the world works, you place blame where blame belongs. Onoes isn't an unwitting victim of circumstance here. Also, good job on claiming these people in your analogy are terrible parents just because their kid was being a kid, albeit with unfortunate timing.
 
Tuco

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Put me in the group that thinks it's scummy to continue with a married woman. That being said I don't think it's *that* scummy in this case simply for the reason that you found out she was married after things got personal. If she told you she was married at the dinner and you still went with her that'd be worse.

I also think Khane is overreacting a bit here even though I agree with his premise that it's shameful to sleep with a married woman period. (Exception made to open marriages).
 
Khane

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Wait, did I read the story wrong? Wasn't she on the phone with her husband while she was leading him around town hand in hand?
 
Joeboo

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Basically Onoes has demonstrated that he is fine committing an immoral act, as long as he knows there's no repercussions/won't get caught. Some people with higher moral standards wouldn't commit an immoral act because of how they would feel about it themselves, regardless of if anyone else knew or not. It's basically the equivalent of finding someones wallet on the ground with money in it and an ID. Many people would just keep it, many people would try to make at least a minimum effort to find the rightful owner. Onoes keeps the money. Both are purely selfish acts, and some people are fine with that.
 
Tarrant

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Tuco_sl said:
Put me in the group that thinks it's scummy to continue with a married woman. That being said I don't think it's *that* scummy in this case simply for the reason that you found out she was married after things got personal. If she told you she was married at the dinner and you still went with her that'd be worse.

I also think Khane is overreacting a bit here even though I agree with his premise that it's shameful to sleep with a married woman period. (Exception made to open marriages).
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I agree with this. Like I said, I don't agree with the act, I'm just placing full blame where it goes in my opinion. Do I agree with him banging her after he found out she was married? No, not really. I wold have ducked out at that point personally. But I'm not going to call him out as a horrible human being.

The wife on the other hand, yeah, she's a whore. (unless her and her hubby have an agreement.)
 
Big Phoenix

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I choose to believe

And who cares if she's married. She pursued him. She made her decision and he had very little agency. It's a different thing if he's trying to charm her hard after knowing she's married.
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cheating worse if you have to act like a cheater and are not a natural cheater? Cheating is cheating, doesnt matter if she had to be buttered up first or was falling on his dick at first sight.
 
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I pretty much agree with everything Khane has stated. Doing something because you believe you can get away with it is sociopathic.
 
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