Marriage and the Power of Divorce
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Gavinmad
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Literally everyone in Michigan
Minus my oldest son now.
I mean, is the water just cleaner at whatever end of the lake you live near? Cause I sure as shit wouldn't get into that water anywhere in Illinois no matter what the temperature was.
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I swam in Lake Superior last summer. It was just below 60 degrees. It hurt for the first bit, then I wanted to die for the second bit. Then I got out and laid in the sun on a sun-baked rock for a while and felt human again. Then I thought to myself "what the fuck is wrong with people who do this regularly?"
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Cutlery
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It ain't like that in the cities anymore. Places need to hire closer to $20 to get anyone. There's jobs around now.
Iron range might be a bit different still, but probably still worth your time to investigate again. The economy has changed things around here quite a bit in the last couple of years,and I suspect bigger changes are yet to come.
Tarrant
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I shoulda been more specific, I meant when I lived in The Cities, my mental state after dropping them off was still the same. The Iron Range is still shit for jobs unless you're in the mines and due to automation, their workforce shrinks more and more each year. When I lived in the Cities I made good money and was doing well for myself.
I didn't see them much more then than I do now.
Also I can't move because my wife is tied here. Her insurance is about the best you can get and with all her medical issues we can't afford to lose it. (she had over $1,000,000 in medical costs last year alone)
Tarrant
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Yeah, Lake Superior takes a different kind of crazy. It's fun to put your feet into but thats about it.
Khane
Got something right about marriage
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My company's HQ is in Edina Minnesota. Not because it's where a boatload of technical talent is, but because it's so fucking cheap to hire insufficient talent that they can churn through while writing it off to offset the cost of the real talent in my Connecticut office. Acting like they're all "contractors" in the Minnesota office.
With all I deal with from the people in those offices and all the stories I hear of the shit weather.... who the fuck would ever wanna live there?
With all I deal with from the people in those offices and all the stories I hear of the shit weather.... who the fuck would ever wanna live there?
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To be clear, I think I would have a very hard time living without four seasons. Winter is my favourite. I love snow. I love cold. It's invigorating and awesome. Spend an afternoon sledding with kids and friends, and then sit in front of the fire. Fantastic.
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Tarrant
, I mourn for you and the distance between you and your kids. I can't imagine it, man. However, the fact that you spend as much time as possible with them will CERTAINLY register with them. I'm confident they know how much you love them. Just keep in touch, and build a good relationship with your adult children when that happens. It will be awesome.
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Tarrant
, I mourn for you and the distance between you and your kids. I can't imagine it, man. However, the fact that you spend as much time as possible with them will CERTAINLY register with them. I'm confident they know how much you love them. Just keep in touch, and build a good relationship with your adult children when that happens. It will be awesome.- 2
Tarrant
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I'd wager its more your office than anything. Edina is a well to do town and the Minneapolis area, in general, is pretty nice. TBH the way you describe it, it sounds more of a company thing than the area. If you breed a bad culture then, of course, that's what you're gonna attract.
Khane
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Oh I definitely would not want to work in that office, it's miserable and all the people are awful to work with. But our other office is in CT and it's much more expensive here. So they staff the smaller, development talent teams in CT and everything else is in Edina. Including most of the executive staff.
Cutlery
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Weeeeeeell,
No hurricanes. No earthquakes. No forest fires. No poisonous snakes or spiders or other bugs. Pretty limited flooding. No bears, no mountain lions, and the minorities are mostly confined to their own shithole areas.
It sucks for a couple weeks in the summer (although this summer has been absolutely glorious), and it sucks for a couple rough weeks in late Jan/Feb when it may not be above 0° for a week, but honestly, it's not that bad. I do happen to enjoy firewood and fireplaces however.
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Tarrant
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Yeah, honestly of all the places I've lived, Minneapolis ranks up there with one of my favorites honestly. Rent is a little out of control but otherwise it's not a bad area at all. For a city its size it's probably the cleanest city I've ever been in, its scenic, lots to do, nice night life and lots of outdoor activities too. If I could, I'd be living there right now I imagine.
McCheese
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My girlfriend is from Minnesota and most of her family still lives up there. For the last couple years we've been going up a lot and spending time in the Twin Cities and up where her family lives in a podunk town around Brainerd. It's really grown on me. Plus I've been buttering up her parents to eventually gain their sweet cabin out in the middle of nowhere as a refuge when society finally starts collapsing. Her brother has shown no interest in it, so I'm pretty sure I stand a good shot of getting it!
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Alex
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Compared to what? It's silly cheap.
Haven't dealt with a proper winter in almost 10 years and I enjoy it more and more every year. In Denver right now and rented a car and there was an ice scraper inside. The sight of it flooded my brain with all the horrific things about winter. Scraping a windshield is something I completely forgot about. Fuck winter sucks. I only like it for skiing and if I want that I'll just drive to Tahoe.
I enjoy that I leave my windows open all year round. Have that nice Bay breeze constant inside your place. It's comforting. Plus I have the same wardrobe practically all year round except for the rainy periods in winter. I went to Jazz Fest in NOLA two years ago and realized I had to buy shorts because I hadn't worn any in like six years. Give me 65 degrees everyday for the rest of my life. Fucking love light jacket weather.
Tarrant
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Compared to the standard of living and pay scale of jobs? What else would you compare rent prices to when saying they are a bit out of control in a specific area? If you're trying to say rent isn't expensive there because it's more where you live that's about the single most ignorant thing you could have possibly responded with.
Avg rent for a 2bedroom in the US is $1,180 per month with a national household avg income of $61,372
Twin Cities/Minneapolis area avg 2bedroom is $1,900 per month with a household avg income of $60,336
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Alex
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Compared to most major cities? A quick search shows plenty of apartments (and entire houses) for around $1,000/month. That's Cincinnati prices. That shit is mad cheap. If you're comparing city cost in general to rural cost? That's being ignorant. Rural areas are always significantly cheaper.
Tarrant
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Again, compare incomes. Just coming in with prices is silly, which you're are off from the avg anyway. Can I find a $1,000 a month apartment in West Saint Paul, Brooklyn Park or North Minneapolis? Sure, probably. Will my stuff be in it when I get home each night? Ehhhhhh, maybe?
Avg rent for a 2bedroom in the US is $1,180 per month with a national household avg income of $61,372
Twin Cities/Minneapolis area avg 2bedroom is $1,900 per month with a household avg income of $60,336
I mean, I lived there for almost 20 years, I'm sure you know more about its standard of living from a 5 min google search than someone who lived there half their life. When comparing national data of prices per income, it's high and has been a city-wide talking point and issue for more than a few years now.
I'm not sitting here and saying it's more expensive to live there than it is in the Bay Area, I'm not sure why people treat rent like some dick swinging contest because theirs is more expensive, but it's cool man. Your rent is a lot, you "win" the rent contest I guess? Congrats? You can't really compare the two areas. One is a destination area, the other is in the middle of the MidWest. $117,000 a year is now considered "low income" in San Francisco, Marin and San Mateo counties, so are your rents going to be higher? Of course. In those areas "low income" is almost double the avg of the area we are talking about. According to smart asset, avg rent in San Fan for a 2 bedroom is $3,108. when you compare the two and %'s of income, people in MPLS have to spend a greater portion of their avg income on rent than the avg people do in San Fran (26% vs 31%).
Looking at one set of basic raw numbers doesn't tell the story.
Anyways, sorry to the rest of you for the derail.
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