Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Just sign a prenup and do it correctly, problem solved. If she won't sign a prenup, don't get married.

Better yet, convince her that marriage serves no purpose and just have your wedding and whatnot without signing shit.
 

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Just sign a prenup and do it correctly, problem solved. If she won't sign a prenup, don't get married.

Better yet, convince her that marriage serves no purpose and just have your wedding and whatnot without signing shit.

Why the fuck would you spend thousands on a wedding if you're not even getting married? That's like the worst part of the whole thing.

Unless you mean a small, immediate family and best friends only thing, then that's acceptable.
 
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Why the fuck would you spend thousands on a wedding if you're not even getting married? That's like the worst part of the whole thing.

Unless you mean a small, immediate family and best friends only thing, then that's acceptable.

Marriage to me means a union of two people, just because the government doesn't give you an official document doesn't mean you can't consider yourself married. You marry with god and your friends and family bearing witness.

A wedding and a government document aren't at all dependent on one another IMO.
 
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Think he knows it’s over tomorrow once we go to our session. He came in and wanted to sleep together in the bed (which he almost never did) and actually wanted to cuddle (which, again, almost never does) and just didn’t want to let go. Had some crappy (as usual, for me anyway), awkward sex since I figured I might as well let him have one last ride. Wish me luck tomorrow. Hopefully it’s not a complete shitshow.
 
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Think he knows it’s over tomorrow once we go to our session. He came in and wanted to sleep together in the bed (which he almost never did) and actually wanted to cuddle (which, again, almost never does) and just didn’t want to let go. Had some crappy (as usual, for me anyway), awkward sex since I figured I might as well let him have one last ride. Wish me luck tomorrow. Hopefully it’s not a complete shitshow.
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Think he knows it’s over tomorrow once we go to our session. He came in and wanted to sleep together in the bed (which he almost never did) and actually wanted to cuddle (which, again, almost never does) and just didn’t want to let go. Had some crappy (as usual, for me anyway), awkward sex since I figured I might as well let him have one last ride. Wish me luck tomorrow. Hopefully it’s not a complete shitshow.
Good you gave him some nice false hope!
 
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"Tits or GTFO" is for hos.

You've been around so long you're a bro, so you get a pass
Nah, "Tits or GTFO" is a core principle of our culture and people.

Man's gotta have principles.
 
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Think he knows it’s over tomorrow once we go to our session. He came in and wanted to sleep together in the bed (which he almost never did) and actually wanted to cuddle (which, again, almost never does) and just didn’t want to let go. Had some crappy (as usual, for me anyway), awkward sex since I figured I might as well let him have one last ride. Wish me luck tomorrow. Hopefully it’s not a complete shitshow.

I can intellectually understand how this might be a way in which you would want to communicate, but I guarantee this is not going to send the message you want now or put him in the long-term emotional state that you want going forward. Men do not process qualifiers around physical intimacy, especially when they are desperate. What you've left him with is a profound cognitive dissonance between "She says she wants a divorce" and "We had sex last night so she must still want me."
 
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Alright, got through it. He took it I think better than I did. Going get his stuff moved into the guest room, I’ve got my new bank accounts setup, going to get my attorney lined up. We’ve still got our honeymoon fund sitting around, so going to split it and he’s going to start looking for somewhere to live in addition to the job hunt. Set more boundaries around the house in the meantime. Feels like a massive weight off now that it’s out there and the process is starting. I know there’s still a lot to get through and there’ll be some shitty and awkward times ahead, but I feel some relief, at least. Thanks again to everyone here for the advice and support, it’s helped immensely.
 
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Alright, got through it. He took it I think better than I did. Going get his stuff moved into the guest room, I’ve got my new bank accounts setup, going to get my attorney lined up. We’ve still got our honeymoon fund sitting around, so going to split it and he’s going to start looking for somewhere to live in addition to the job hunt. Set more boundaries around the house in the meantime. Feels like a massive weight off now that it’s out there and the process is starting. I know there’s still a lot to get through and there’ll be some shitty and awkward times ahead, but I feel some relief, at least. Thanks again to everyone here for the advice and support, it’s helped immensely.
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Alright, got through it. He took it I think better than I did. Going get his stuff moved into the guest room, I’ve got my new bank accounts setup, going to get my attorney lined up. We’ve still got our honeymoon fund sitting around, so going to split it and he’s going to start looking for somewhere to live in addition to the job hunt. Set more boundaries around the house in the meantime. Feels like a massive weight off now that it’s out there and the process is starting. I know there’s still a lot to get through and there’ll be some shitty and awkward times ahead, but I feel some relief, at least. Thanks again to everyone here for the advice and support, it’s helped immensely.
The relief after the initial felt like the best holiday experience imaginable.
The final decree felt nice, but the next day after the talk was something I wish I could bottle up.

Congratulations on the new life ahead.
 

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Men do not process qualifiers around physical intimacy, especially when they are desperate. What you've left him with is a profound cognitive dissonance between "She says she wants a divorce" and "We had sex last night so she must still want me."

I don't see how your 2 statements here can be true. If men doesn't process qualifiers then they don't care what reason the sex happens. That doesn't generate any cognitive dissonance because they don't think about it. All they think is "don't care, got laid."
 
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I don't see how your 2 statements here can be true. If men doesn't process qualifiers then they don't care what reason the sex happens. That doesn't generate any cognitive dissonance because they don't think about it. All they think is "don't care, got laid."

I meant sex equals "she wants me" in a way that validates whatever the man was after. Sometimes it's just sex, sometimes it's affirmation of relationship, but it's confirming his biases and not going to carry overtones of "This is a final pity fuck; take it as such and move on."
 
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My wife has a friend that pity fucked her husband for nearly 20 years. Once the youngest was off to college filed for divorce. Sadly, my wife and I knew they were doomed to fail from college, it was an open secret she was just sticking around for the kids. Now she is apparently dating and getting dicked down by guys 10-15 years younger, which I am not surprised by as she has always been one of my wife's hottest friends.
 
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I meant sex equals "she wants me" in a way that validates whatever the man was after. Sometimes it's just sex, sometimes it's affirmation of relationship, but it's confirming his biases and not going to carry overtones of "This is a final pity fuck; take it as such and move on."

Yeah, I don't really think that's how it works. My marriage almost fell apart because of my own doing like 20 years ago, and we were basically just roommates at that point. Still fucked.

And it was over on everything but paper for like 6 months before it was actually over. Still fucked. And at no point in either of those situations did I think "oh, she's still fucking me, I'm good." No. It was just convenient for us both. At no point was I confused about the status of the convenience fucking. Men just take it when they can get it.

And if she bent over the table after he had his car packed up with all his shit and asked him "one last go round?", he would take that too.

(Disclaimer - I am not suggesting you do such things, Koushirou Koushirou , mostly because he's apparently bad at it. I'm just saying he probably wouldn't turn you down).