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I don't even know what you're trying to get at though. Attractive guys get more messages. Go figure. Did I need some deep analysis to know that? But you even said it yourself women think 80% of men online are below average. So you need a good profile to stick out. How would they even quantify if a profile is good?
No, you're really missing the point. Most users don't look at the profile. At all. The ONLY thing that matters is your picture for the vast majority of cases. As in, you could have an empty profile and a profile completely filled out with the same picture, and you'd have 95% exactly the same results. OKCupid has tracked this and published their findings.
Ok I misunderstood what their analysis was tracking then. That is quite surprising. Maybe online dating has changed since I was in the game 4'ish years ago but I always got hand crafted messages from girls highlighting things in my profile. I very, very rarely got a "u wan sum fuk?" message.
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The blog post The Master is referring to is far more in depth than just that figure. They postulated a bunch about the cause/effect of that data and it was pretty interesting reading. If 80% of men are "below average" it means women don't understand what the word "average" means and live in a fantasy world with ideals of a "perfect mate".
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The only messages I ever get from women who initiate contact with me are at best one sentence. And even worse at least 50% of them just say "Hi"
I'd think the most logical reason for that is males, at least 4-6 years ago, are perceived as "desperate" for being on online dating. So girls go into the process already looking down on the males and looking for flaws. I know quite a few girls, even in this day, who just refuse to use online dating because they think only the bottom of the barrel is on it.
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To be fair, if you're given a sample of 10000 women and they're all uggos, are required to change your definition of 'average'? It's quite believable that 80% of men on dating sites are below average without violation of whatever definition of average you want to use.
Oh, and it doesn't even have to be weighted average. With some wonky distribution, you can get a regular average where 80% of the population is below it.
Oh, and it doesn't even have to be weighted average. With some wonky distribution, you can get a regular average where 80% of the population is below it.
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No it isn't. Online dating isn't some cesspool of unattractive, desperate people.
Actually the other half of that blog is how incredibly fair the men evaluating women curve is. Without normalization, it is still a nearly perfect bell curve. Meaning men have very realistic standards for female beauty. They then proceed to message like the top 1/3 of that curve of course. But they are judging fairly. Women just have a really distorted world view.
And over a quarter of the 25-34 age bracket has used a dating website and the number just keeps growing. It isn't some small sample size.
And over a quarter of the 25-34 age bracket has used a dating website and the number just keeps growing. It isn't some small sample size.
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I'll admit I haven't spent 1 second on a dating site. I would be curious to know what size subsection of the dating population it is. You can run into skewed statistics in those cases.
38% of singles use online dating. 25% of the 25-34 age bracket. 9% of the total population I think was the most recent number, but over 65 is only 3%. Considering baby boomers, that skews the total percent a bit.
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I was really impressed by how neat the unnormalized bell curve was for men.
Right? In terms of our cultural narrative, with the media always talking about how men have unrealistic standards of beauty, that was just great data.
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Here's the article btw:
Your Looks and Your Inbox OkTrends
What this shows is actually the opposite of the bullshit Himeo was peddling. Men are even with their rating distribution, but tend to go after the top very dramatically. Women are much more negative in their rating distribution, but tend to go after the bottom somewhat moderately.
Your Looks and Your Inbox OkTrends
What this shows is actually the opposite of the bullshit Himeo was peddling. Men are even with their rating distribution, but tend to go after the top very dramatically. Women are much more negative in their rating distribution, but tend to go after the bottom somewhat moderately.
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IDK, the subjectivity of all of this makes it hard to draw concrete conclusions. I could just as easily look at the lopsided "male->female messaging" curve and conclude that it reinforces the unrealistic standard.
