Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Khane

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Himeo man... you gotta get that chip on your shoulder regarding women taken care of.

You shouldn't need a study to tell you women aren't inherently attracted to "nice" men. It has nothing to do with women wanting a man who is an asshole and treats them like dirt and everything to do with a man who will compete over resources and be able to be a provider (instinctively we like to believe we've evolved past that but in practice, even in this day and age, nice guys tend to finish last in every facet of life, not just love. And that's simply not attractive)
 

Foggy

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I had never read that redpill stub reddit before tonight. Some of the shit on there is hilarious.

Work out, but don't workout so much that it looks like you workout, women don't find that attractive. Lol wut?
 

Xequecal

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I had never read that redpill stub reddit before tonight. Some of the shit on there is hilarious.

Work out, but don't workout so much that it looks like you workout, women don't find that attractive. Lol wut?
Yeah, about this. Why is it that on online dating sites, the vadt majority of male profiles where the guy is in shape have a picture of the guy shirtless and flexing, despite the fact that the majority of female profiles have a line saying that this specifically is offensive/repulsive and they won't respond to men that do it?
 

The Master

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Yeah, about this. Why is it that on online dating sites, the vadt majority of male profiles where the guy is in shape have a picture of the guy shirtless and flexing, despite the fact that the majority of female profiles have a line saying that this specifically is offensive/repulsive and they won't respond to men that do it?
The OKTrends blog is easily some of the most fascinating reading ever and it is being updated again, but one of the older entries answers your question: because it works. Guys with those ab pics get the most responses and the most unsolicited messages. Now why women are lying... well, there are several explanations, any of which could be true and none of which I think are provable. So.

Other fun facts: Your profile basically doesn't matter. You either have a good picture or you're SOL.
 

Khane

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Other fun facts: Your profile basically doesn't matter. You either have a good picture or you're SOL.
It's funny just how true this is. I've had message interaction with many women who obviously never even read my profile, just responded after I sent them a message and they checked out my pictures. It's always fun going on first dates and talking about things as part of a normal conversation that were in my profile and them being surprised to find them out.
 

Tenks

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Other fun facts: Your profile basically doesn't matter. You either have a good picture or you're SOL.
This is a dangerous line to tread. It is more yes & no. I ran a profile where I had pictures of myself without my shirt on. This was back when I was an absolute gym rat and I was in very good shape. Yes I attracted girls but not exactly the kind of girls I was interested in attracting. This, however, could be good for some guys who only want to find these girls. Toooons of strippers. Tons of single moms. Basically the girls were attractive but had absolutely nothing else going for them.

So I switched it up. I deleted that profile and put up one with me just hanging out with friends and otherwise fully clothed. I know how to dress myself so they could obviously see I was in shape but nothing was shown off. I guess in terms of attractiveness possibly I was getting lower on the attractive scale. But I was actually getting girls who had careers and education. I used, for the most part, the same profile text on both of them. I still argue a good profile is a requirement if you're actually looking for a long term relationship. I guess if you're treating OKC/POF/Match more like Tinder it matters far less.

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This is all from the male POV. A girl who is hot can just post pictures and her profile could say "I eat baby sandwiches and drink the blood of goats every Wednesday" and she'll still get 5000 messages a day.
 

Tenks

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And for my take on the open relationship post. If I were the guy I'd just end it then and there. If the girl can't trust herself to not sleep with some greasy euro trash for three months that isn't the kind of girl I'd be interested in continued dating. It sounds like the guy is kind of needy to be in a relationship so just immediately swung vines. That is fine but he shouldn't do it under the guise of an open relationship. I'm sure his other relationship extended beyond purely sexual release if he was seeing her that often.
 

Dabamf_sl

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The travel story is more complicated than it seems. When you're traveling for months at a time, you're living in an entirely different universe. Part of what makes it a great experience is living completely in the moment. Meet some cool people, change your itinerary and travel with them for a few days or weeks. Capitalize on any new opportunity that seems interesting. When I was traveling, the people I met who were in relationships were far more restrained and generally had not as good of a time. They couldn't meet some people in their hostel dorm and have a spontaneous wild night out and become best friends over night because they were always careful not to put themselves in a position where they might cheat (ie lots of alcohol and fun attractive people). There was only one person I met who managed to have the full experience and stay faithful for months, but even his efforts were thwarted by a very determined Thai girl near the end of his trip.

It's easy to look at that story (which sounds kinda fake - how would the girl not have an opportunity to party and sleep with hot guys? It's fucking EVERYWHERE unless you're staying in fancy hotels or some shit) and be like "haha fuck that dumb bitch!" But I think her request was totally reasonable and well thought out. She wisely anticipated potential difficulties and recognized her humanness capable of making mistakes, and she didn't want to do wrong by her bf. The bf's behavior was totally reasonable as well.

There's no easy answer in that situation. No one acted unreasonable
 

Deathwing

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If you really can't control yourself on a trip like that, then the unreasonable part is going in the first place.
 

The Ancient_sl

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This is a dangerous line to tread. It is more yes & no. I ran a profile where I had pictures of myself without my shirt on. This was back when I was an absolute gym rat and I was in very good shape. Yes I attracted girls but not exactly the kind of girls I was interested in attracting. This, however, could be good for some guys who only want to find these girls. Toooons of strippers. Tons of single moms. Basically the girls were attractive but had absolutely nothing else going for them.
Bingo.
 

Himeo

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Yeah, keep the angry neckbeard stuff in that thread.
Mods shawed it. This is the red pill thread.

It's easy to look at that story (which sounds kinda fake - how would the girl not have an opportunity to party and sleep with hot guys? It's fucking EVERYWHERE unless you're staying in fancy hotels or some shit) and be like "haha fuck that dumb bitch!" But I think her request was totally reasonable and well thought out. She wisely anticipated potential difficulties and recognized her humanness capable of making mistakes, and she didn't want to do wrong by her bf. The bf's behavior was totally reasonable as well.

There's no easy answer in that situation. No one acted unreasonable
That was one of the funny parts about that story. The trip started on the 17th of February, she posted that on the 23rd. Less than five days and Mr. Homebody Xbox replaced her.

It also meant she had every intention of riding 2-3 cocks every weekend for three months straight and failed miserably.
 

Haast

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The travel story is more complicated than it seems. When you're traveling for months at a time, you're living in an entirely different universe. Part of what makes it a great experience is living completely in the moment. Meet some cool people, change your itinerary and travel with them for a few days or weeks. Capitalize on any new opportunity that seems interesting. When I was traveling, the people I met who were in relationships were far more restrained and generally had not as good of a time. They couldn't meet some people in their hostel dorm and have a spontaneous wild night out and become best friends over night because they were always careful not to put themselves in a position where they might cheat (ie lots of alcohol and fun attractive people). There was only one person I met who managed to have the full experience and stay faithful for months, but even his efforts were thwarted by a very determined Thai girl near the end of his trip.

It's easy to look at that story (which sounds kinda fake - how would the girl not have an opportunity to party and sleep with hot guys? It's fucking EVERYWHERE unless you're staying in fancy hotels or some shit) and be like "haha fuck that dumb bitch!" But I think her request was totally reasonable and well thought out. She wisely anticipated potential difficulties and recognized her humanness capable of making mistakes, and she didn't want to do wrong by her bf. The bf's behavior was totally reasonable as well.

There's no easy answer in that situation. No one acted unreasonable
Her being up front was the right move, but her frame of mind wasn't proper. If this trip is more important than the relationship, have some class and end the relationship. Don't demean your partner and propose what you assume to be a one-sided open relationship.

No one acted unreasonably, but she was a fool.
 

Noodleface

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Are you the guy that was guzzling garlic sauce containers from papa johns and now you're posting red pill stuff? I think if you had some trouble with the ladies it might have been bad breath and bad size.