Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Noodleface

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I don't hate my mother-in-law either as she's pretty nice to me, but she gives the worst advice and my wife listens to all of it.
 

BrotherWu

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I don't hate mine, but considering my wife's entire family (other than one sister) are totally into Jesus, we don't exactly have much to discuss. I got my ten years in, though, so I stopped giving a shit about the occasional profanity or drink around them.
Ours are church folk but not overbearing. I watch my language but I otherwise don't try to pretend I'm not a heathen.
 

Phazael

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MY wife's parents are actual missionaries like to the level where Jesus probably signs their paychecks. And by that I really mean my wife sends them extra money to keep them afloat while they bitch about Obamacare providing them actual insurance because he is probably Muslim and not white like Jesus.

Also, Noodle, most women hide under their mom's skirts no matter how insane they might be. Most of this is because many mothers like to pound their insecurities into their daughters, at least in my experience. My wife keeps a tight orbit around her mom, but at least she realized a lot of what her mom says is bullshit. That realization comes with age, though.
 

Noodleface

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I learned most of what she said was bullshit when we were putting offers in on a house and she told us to raise our offer by $15k to make sure we got it, we weren't even turned down....
 

Big Phoenix

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Well, here is a piece of wisdom that you will learn once you settle down with someone. If you are fighting over petty shit, then things are going great. Its fighting about serious shit or (worse) no fighting at all that are red flags that something bad is going on. A little grumping over stupid shit is the woman equivalent of men breaking your balls and actually keeps things frisky.
Nah. If you guys are fighting over petty shit either one or both of you are idiots.
That's why chicks poop in your bushes.
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Sutekh

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MY wife's parents are actual missionaries like to the level where Jesus probably signs their paychecks. And by that I really mean my wife sends them extra money to keep them afloat while they bitch about Obamacare providing them actual insurance because he is probably Muslim and not white like Jesus.

Also, Noodle, most women hide under their mom's skirts no matter how insane they might be. Most of this is because many mothers like to pound their insecurities into their daughters, at least in my experience. My wife keeps a tight orbit around her mom, but at least she realized a lot of what her mom says is bullshit. That realization comes with age, though.
Really dude, I'm not trolling here. You've got some serious respect issues. Every post you've made in the past two pages pretty much screams that you think you're better than women.
 

Phazael

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Really dude, I'm not trolling here. You've got some serious respect issues. Every post you've made in the past two pages pretty much screams that you think you're better than women.
Says the divorced guy to the happily married guy....

If you actually paid attention to what I posted you would probably draw the (correct) conclusion that I fall more on the white knight side of things. This thread is not about respect as much as it is navigating the drama to a place of happiness, at least in my mind.
 

Phazael

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Nah. If you guys are fighting over petty shit either one or both of you are idiots.
If your longest term friends agree with you 100% of the time about everything without the slightest word of dissent, then you are probably both in a cult. Even regular friends fight and bitch about stupid shit, to say nothing of couples who spend their entire lives together. And if you aren't, then she is probably bitching about you to her mom or her female friends just like a lot of us are bitching about our women to each other in this thread.
 

Sutekh

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Says the divorced guy to the happily married guy....

If you actually paid attention to what I posted you would probably draw the (correct) conclusion that I fall more on the white knight side of things. This thread is not about respect as much as it is navigating the drama to a place of happiness, at least in my mind.
I mean you can try and insult me if you want in that sense. If you want to really know the reason my wife and I split up it's because she was going to have to make compromises in her life and go without doing things that she truly wanted. We sat down and talked and I told her she needs to "follow her dreams" even if it meant not taking me along.

I have read what you posted ... That's why I brought it up, haha.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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IMHO Phaz has some of the best perspectives on women in this thread. Haven't picked up on any White Knight vibe at all, but certainly some accurate generalizations married to some decent irony/sarcasm/satire.

And seriously, it's all about navigating the drama.
 

Kirun

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If your longest term friends agree with you 100% of the time about everything without the slightest word of dissent, then you are probably both in a cult. Even regular friends fight and bitch about stupid shit, to say nothing of couples who spend their entire lives together. And if you aren't, then she is probably bitching about you to her mom or her female friends just like a lot of us are bitching about our women to each other in this thread.
So much this. People in this thread have some seriously weird friendships. I can't imagine that much pacifism in a relationship.
 

Phazael

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@Sutekh-
Not an insult, I just think your perspective on this discussion is flawed. Recognizing reality and differences between the genders does not mean there is a lack of respect for women. Hating third wave feministas does not make one a misogynistic pig, either. I guess I just cannot conceive of a situation where separating with my wife would be an acceptable trade off for something else, which is where you lose me. But I am also old fashioned in some ways and these people out in Cali who have been married three times and act like its normal blow my mind as well. I am curious how you ended up where you are, but its your business whether you want to spill details on that or not.

But I do know I do not give a divorced man's relationship advice as much weight. Its like my fat ass handing out nutritional advice. Its nothing personal. I consider this thread a safe zone for airing out bullshit and getting insult free advice. I figure anyone here is either providing or looking for fresh perspective. No need to shit on someone doing that.
 

radditsu

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I mean you can try and insult me if you want in that sense. If you want to really know the reason my wife and I split up it's because she was going to have to make compromises in her life and go without doing things that she truly wanted. We sat down and talked and I told her she needs to "follow her dreams" even if it meant not taking me along.

I have read what you posted ... That's why I brought it up, haha.
Porn star?
Mercenary?
Prostitute?
Jesuit?
 

Sutekh

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I'm not going to go into the details here but lets just say it hinged on her wanting Children and me not wanting Children ever. This is the trade off. For some people that is more important than others obviously. I've got no clue on what type of feminists you hate or anything and really don't care honestly, I'd probably agree with you there. It's just making broad statements like

"women hide under their mom's skirts no matter how insane they might be. Most of this is because many mothers like to pound their insecurities into their daughters"

Just screams that you have a lack of respect for your wife.
 

iannis

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And yet for some women true.

But I wouldn't even go so far as to say a majority of women. Just some. I wouldn't even say it's a gender issue. There are men that hide behind their fathers until their father dies.
 

Frenzied Wombat

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Hyperbole and generalizations need to be given a somewhat wider berth in this thread otherwise it would be monumentally boring, with nobody able to comment outside the confines of their specific relationship(s).

EDIT: Phaz's statement rings true depending on the ethnicity/background of the girl. Date an Italian or Jewish girl and she's pretty much talking to her mom every day. Not necessarily bad from a macro level, they just have a real tight family thing going on.
 

Sutekh

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I'm not trying to discredit his opinion or anything. I guess I was just pointing out something I noticed and wanted to see what he had to say about it or why he said those specific things, because honestly it just struck me as ignorant.