Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Sutekh

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Really? Be dead? If the chick is cheating on you there's obviously something wrong, just cut your losses and move on. Same thing with the whole "I've got to discover myself" stuff, obviously they're not happy with their current situation, whether that's related to fucking another dude or just thinking they can get more out of a relationship/person then you need to not act like a child and realize that maybe, your current thing isn't working out for both parties.

Yall Wakandans need to grow the fuck up.

Side note; driving to Pittsburgh to meet up with girl this weekend. We didn't meet up last weekend and it was rough, ROUGH. Thank god for Skype. If things keep on pace I might find my ass living back in Pittsburgh.

Kirun_sl said:
The girls with "good bodies" are putting out just as much/even more than the uggos, trust me. The only difference is that they are allowed to be more selective about who they open up for.
Yeah, not really sure why just because a woman has a good body or good personality they wouldn't put out. I'm not sure what kind of past experiences you (not YOU, just people in general) have had with sex, but I've found that women ALSO like sex, usually just as much as men.

I'm going through this right now. Looks like me and the wife are about to get a divorce and I'm stressing the fuck out about keeping the kids in their private school and keeping the house cause her parents are telling her to get a lawyer and make me sell everything and put the kids into daycare because private school isn't worth it and she needs to get all the money she can. I think though after looking at a bunch of paperwork guidelines and stuff that I could probably keep the house anyway so long as I paid the difference in equity to her and it's only like 20k. The car I still have to finish paying has 17k on it right there. I figure if this goes to lawyers I will probably be able to keep the house and the kids in private school. Anyway right now she just wants a separation to see if her work boyfriend (which no one including me is supposed to know about but I am friends with her co-workers too... duuuurrr!) is a better deal then me. I'm sure two Walmart incomes plus his extra child is going to be the heaven she is looking for.
Man I know times are tough when it comes to a divorce and your marriage not working out, etc. But you've got to have some respect for yourself. From the posts you've made in this thread I find that you're seriously lacking it. Just because this chick's the mother of your kids and was your wife for however long doesn't mean you should give her free reign to walk all over you. You sound like Aamina or Aanima or whatever the fuck that pussy's name was.
 

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Yeah, not really sure why just because a woman has a good body or good personality they wouldn't put out. I'm not sure what kind of past experiences you (not YOU, just people in general) have had with sex, but I've found that women ALSO like sex, usually just as much as men.
There's just a lot of social guilt for girls to act slutty/sexy, once they either get past that (get old enough to not give a fuck) or you get them in situations where their actions won't be held against them by people they know (Vegas, vacation, etc) they are just as horny and sexual as men. Maybe still a bit more picky, but don't underestimate a woman's sex drive once you know how to turn them on.
 

Sutekh

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There's just a lot of social guilt for girls to act slutty/sexy, once they either get past that (get old enough to not give a fuck) or you get them in situations where their actions won't be held against them by people they know (Vegas, vacation, etc) they are just as horny and sexual as men. Maybe still a bit more picky, but don't underestimate a woman's sex drive once you know how to turn them on.
I'll agree there. When I had first moved back here I was sleeping with one my little sister's friend and they were pretty upset because she was "slutty" and slept with a lot of guys. I found it pretty strange since ... I was pretty slutty and slept with a lot of women. It's stupid that people feel that way though, sex is sex. Feels great for both parties most of the time so why would you not want to do it?
 

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Isn't Selix the same guy as Sharmai? He used to go on about having no problem cheating on his wife, right? Tell me I'm not crazy.
 

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I'll agree there. When I had first moved back here I was sleeping with one my little sister's friend and they were pretty upset because she was "slutty" and slept with a lot of guys. I found it pretty strange since ... I was pretty slutty and slept with a lot of women. It's stupid that people feel that way though, sex is sex. Feels great for both parties most of the time so why would you not want to do it?
Because religion
 

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It's the whore wife who is cheating. Leave that dude at the office alone.
 

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I really doubt religion plays much of a part of the current issue with that.
Not religion directly, but religion formed the social stigma against casual sex. The more secular the society is, generally, the less sexually repressed it is as well. Western Europe and Japan for example don't have nearly the social stigmas that we do around sex because Western Europe has been secularizing for a long time and Japan never was heavily religious.
 

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It's the whore wife who is cheating. Leave that dude at the office alone.
Yea, I never understood why people get so mad at the third party unless it was their friend so the betrayal is direct. If it's some anonymous (to you) stranger, you had no agreement with him and he owes you nothing. Sure, he's an asshole for sleeping with a married woman, but your problem is with her, not him.
 

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Not religion directly, but religion formed the social stigma against casual sex. The more secular the society is, generally, the less sexually repressed it is as well. Western Europe and Japan for example don't have nearly the social stigmas that we do around sex because Western Europe has been secularizing for a long time and Japan never was heavily religious.
Yeah that's not really true. Japan is obsessed with keeping women as pure and innocent as possible. It's part of the reason why Japanese women are so awful in bed.
 

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Yeah that's not really true. Japan is obsessed with keeping women as pure and innocent as possible. It's part of the reason why Japanese women are so awful in bed.
Yea, I get they like to act innocent (rather than letting that beast out, which would make them more fun), but everything I've read (never been to Japan, so I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong) says Japanese girls are relatively easy, and casual about sex. Especially to white Americans.
 

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My wife and I are both non-religious and she does massive slut shaming
Well your wife just sounds like an asshole.

Also count me on the 'no idea why people get angry at the dude' bandwagon when it comes to cheating, it was obviously the chick that allowed that shit to happen when she was in a relationship.
 

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Yea, I never understood why people get so mad at the third party unless it was their friend so the betrayal is direct. If it's some anonymous (to you) stranger, you had no agreement with him and he owes you nothing. Sure, he's an asshole for sleeping with a married woman, but your problem is with her, not him.
I was trying to maintain my alpha male role. I've personally never been cheated on (that I know of?) so I can't honestly say how I would react. The rationalist in my says I'd be pissed at my so who is cheating, but I suppose it would be dependent on the situation, most importantly who the guy is.
 

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Are we saying the country with a terrible birthrate due to women not having sex and also blurs out genitals in porn is sexually open?
 

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Yea, I get they like to act innocent (rather than letting that beast out, which would make them more fun), but everything I've read (never been to Japan, so I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong) says Japanese girls are relatively easy, and casual about sex. Especially to white Americans.
There's a small subsection of Japanese women that will date and fuck white foreigners sure. Any day you want to hook up it's a quick trip to Roppongi, but in general, Japanese society is strongly against promiscuous women, or even women enjoying sex. To say there is no strong social stigma against it is inaccurate. You can't just be white and take your pick. The majority of Japanese women wouldn't even consider you, unless they are young and/or curious.

You also have to take into account the fact that most Japanese women are still rocking an 80's full bush, and to show any kind of interaction or enjoyment of sex would sully their innocent nature, which makes bedding them boring unless you pick up one of the bar sluts. If that's your thing. I've posted on this in the past, lemme pull it up.

Chysamere_sl said:
They are completely unable to just relax and enjoy a relationship for what it is. It's like there's a nagging voice in their head saying "Where is this going? Where is this going?" and if they don't think it's heading to marriage, they're out. Had friends drop guys they were in a perfectly good relationship with, because "They didn't feel like it was progressing"

Career wise, they are all gung ho about university, work for 5-8 years, and by that time they expect to be married, have a child, and to stop working and let their man take care of them. Zero ambition. I don't know how avoid getting bored.

Unless you pick up bar sluts with lots of practice, they suck in bed. I don't know who is going around passing the memo that just laying there making little yippy dog noises is what men like, but they need to be stopped. Also a blowjob is not rub my dick around your tongue and halfheartedly poke it into your mouth. Poor grooming is another issue, unless you go for bar sluts like I mentioned before. I don't want to beat my way through a jungle every time. Finding a Japanese girl with decent tits is more difficult than it should be.

I'm rather casual about relationships and don't really see myself ever getting married, but it would be nice to have a long term girlfriend if I found the right girl but with my attitudes, it's not really possible with Japanese women for the above reasons.

I just have to console myself with the fact there is a large amount of women who will date/bang you casually because A) You're foreign and B) They want to practice English.
Chysamere_sl said:
The grooming depends on the girl. I've never honestly asked, but I've been told by friends that it's a sign of being a woman and to get rid of it is not something that would occur to them, and they wouldn't like it.

I don't have the patience to train. I'm the type of person who gets bored easily and moves on to a new hobby/woman/game quickly unless there's something special. I imagine it could be done, but you'd be going against decades of societal pressure of what a woman is supposed to be like. A proper Japanese woman doesn't enjoy or involve herself in sex too much because she's trying to appear to be young and pure and innocent, because that's what Japanese men find appealing. Sex is something being done to them that they are being coerced into, but they're a good girl so it's all your fault.

That's why there's products like nipple pinkener on the market.
 

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There's a small subsection of Japanese women that will date and fuck white foreigners sure. Any day you want to hook up it's a quick trip to Roppongi, but in general, Japanese society is strongly against promiscuous women, or even women enjoying sex. To say there is no strong social stigma against it is inaccurate. You can't just be white and take your pick. The majority of Japanese women wouldn't even consider you, unless they are young and/or curious.

You also have to take into account the fact that most Japanese women are still rocking an 80's full bush, and to show any kind of interaction or enjoyment of sex would sully their innocent nature, which makes bedding them boring unless you pick up one of the bar sluts. If that's your thing.
Good info thanks
 

Sutekh

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Don't listen to Chys when it comes to women, he houses 3 big whoppers a day and hates skinny girls in Japan, he's obviously insane!