Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Tenks_sl said:
Do maids actually pick up all the clutter and shit? How would they know where to put it?
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They pretty much just put the shit wherever and you may or may not ever find it again. Be sure to get maids who don't speak english, that way you can't ask them where it is and you'll learn to put your own shit away.

Cad_sl said:
I don't think Noodle wants to bandaid the problem, he wants to fix his wife's attitude. Which is admirable but might be impossible.
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But that would mean the principal is more important than a clean house, and that's not what he's telling us, is it?

Noodle, start with a 1 time maid and see if the 2 of you can keep the shit clean after that. If not, do the best you can and bring the maids back once a month. Unless you really don't care about the clean house and you just want to pick a fight.
 
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I like to walk around the house and move things slightly and see if my wife notices. It's insidious things too like I turn a kleenex box 90 degrees so that the pattern she likes isn't facing outwards. I'll flip a couch pillow so that the tag is facing the wrong way. If there's a stack of papers I'll take smaller ones and put them in the MIDDLE of the stack so that the stack isn't orderly from bottom to top.

LIKE A BOSS

But she always notices and fixes it and I blame it on the kids.

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Tenks_sl said:
It may just have to be a flaw you need to understand and manage yourself. Like I said my wife sucks at putting shit away. There were Christmas bags on the kitchen table (we don't use it for anything other than putting shit on we never eat there) that I knew would never be picked up until late March if I didn't just do it. But it also freaked me out to look at them every day. So I just put them away. Was it her job to do it? Yeah. But was I going to go to war over something that took me 5 minutes to fix? Nope. Anymore if something is out of place and I don't like looking at it I just fix it. I have abandoned trying to make her do it because "Its her job" and I just do it myself. It takes less effort honestly for me to just fix the mess than it would be to convince her to do it herself.

She also does the whole freakout when I clean up. Mainly because I throw shit away. If it isn't serving a purpose it gets thrown away. But I think she's starting to realize things that are actually important need a place because if I get in a cleaning mood half our house goes in the trash can.
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It took my wife reading some crazy Japanese lady's book to finally realize that things that do not have a place need to be removed from our existence
 
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stupidmonkey_sl said:
This one?

Amazon.com: The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up: The Japanese Art of Decluttering and Organizing (8601421528498): Marie Kondo: Books
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I think that's the one.

That lady is a crazy person with zero concept of children. But some of the stuff that was reader digested to me by my wife seems fair. Sushi rolling your socks seems a little much. But my wife actively said "goodbye" to her old clothes this weekend and I think its going to make laundry a ton easier.
 
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Noodle, apologies if you already answered this but is your wife planning on becoming a stay-at-home mom or is she just taking a hiatus from work to raise your little one until preschool?
 
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Cad_sl said:
I like to walk around the house and move things slightly and see if my wife notices. It's insidious things too like I turn a kleenex box 90 degrees so that the pattern she likes isn't facing outwards. I'll flip a couch pillow so that the tag is facing the wrong way. If there's a stack of papers I'll take smaller ones and put them in the MIDDLE of the stack so that the stack isn't orderly from bottom to top.

LIKE A BOSS

But she always notices and fixes it and I blame it on the kids.

Favorite pasttime ever
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High-five for OCD unicorn wives.
 
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So my wife asked me last night, (while talking about starwars) when will that black Matt Damon guy (Fin) get his Boba Fett mask ?



She staying at her brothers for the weekend while we work through this...
 
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Made some strides towards domestication of my wife. She cooked me dinner once, she never cooks so it was nice even if it was just homemade pizza. She's also been fairly regular with the laundry, I've only had to switch it over a couple times when she's left for work with it still finishing a load.

The office is still messy, but better than before but that's all me. I've been working late so not much time or desire to deal with it.

The positive is since I've been picking up our living room and kitchen everyday the house looks almost normal. The problem is I'll come home and she will somehow have piles of crap again. I don't even know where the stuff comes from. At least now it takes 5 minutes for me to pick up rather than some massive mound of shit.

I ended up buying this awesome kitchen table made entirely out of solid wood. It sits 8 people and is like 9 feet long or something. The issue is she starts piling shit on it and I flip out. Like before we had a piece of shit table that was practically particle board and I didn't care. Now we have a really nice table and it pisses me off that she uses it to store junk. I just make piles of her crap and put it in random places.

It's still a battle.. Just getting better slowly.
 
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Noodlemod_sl said:
Made some strides towards domestication of my wife. She cooked me dinner once, she never cooks so it was nice even if it was just homemade pizza. She's also been fairly regular with the laundry, I've only had to switch it over a couple times when she's left for work with it still finishing a load.

The office is still messy, but better than before but that's all me. I've been working late so not much time or desire to deal with it.

The positive is since I've been picking up our living room and kitchen everyday the house looks almost normal. The problem is I'll come home and she will somehow have piles of crap again. I don't even know where the stuff comes from. At least now it takes 5 minutes for me to pick up rather than some massive mound of shit.

I ended up buying this awesome kitchen table made entirely out of solid wood. It sits 8 people and is like 9 feet long or something. The issue is she starts piling shit on it and I flip out. Like before we had a piece of shit table that was practically particle board and I didn't care. Now we have a really nice table and it pisses me off that she uses it to store junk. I just make piles of her crap and put it in random places.

It's still a battle.. Just getting better slowly.
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Cool, glad it's improving for you. Hope for the future and all that.
 
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Noodlemod_sl said:
Made some strides towards domestication of my wife. She cooked me dinner once, she never cooks so it was nice even if it was just homemade pizza. She's also been fairly regular with the laundry, I've only had to switch it over a couple times when she's left for work with it still finishing a load.

The office is still messy, but better than before but that's all me. I've been working late so not much time or desire to deal with it.

The positive is since I've been picking up our living room and kitchen everyday the house looks almost normal. The problem is I'll come home and she will somehow have piles of crap again. I don't even know where the stuff comes from. At least now it takes 5 minutes for me to pick up rather than some massive mound of shit.

I ended up buying this awesome kitchen table made entirely out of solid wood. It sits 8 people and is like 9 feet long or something. The issue is she starts piling shit on it and I flip out. Like before we had a piece of shit table that was practically particle board and I didn't care. Now we have a really nice table and it pisses me off that she uses it to store junk. I just make piles of her crap and put it in random places.

It's still a battle.. Just getting better slowly.
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What is this stuff she's accumulating? Start throwing it out.

My mom would do that (she was a neat freak). She'd start throwing out things on us if we kept leaving them around. "Obviously you don't need it, otherwise you'd put it back where it belongs."
 
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Its like junk mail, random shit. She also is OCD about copying EVERYTHING she thinks might be important one day. She has so many old bills filed and shit. To me I pay a bill and toss it. She keeps them for years. Why? Her mom does the same thing.

Also she shreds anything with her name on it. Cable bill? Gotta shred it. Junk mail? Gotta shred it. Her parents got her into this, they're big into anti government etc. Thinks her identity will be stolen this way. It just makes no sense. This is something I'll never be able to change.

That in itself is fine anyways if she kept up with it but she shreds like once a year. So imagine a year of mail piling up in an office.
 
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Have a dedicated trash can with a shredder on it? Somewhere easily accessible too. That way there's no reason to store letters for the annual shredder day.
 
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Tell her you have a shredder at work at you'll shred it there. Then just toss it in the dumpster on the way in.
 
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