Marriage and the Power of Divorce

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Kithani

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If you’re really desperate, I posted one in the RL pic thread years ago and let’s just say I’m not exactly a fine wine. I’m sure Izo will swoop in here at any moment with it, since he’s a weird fuck and has all that shit saved on his hard drive, probably.
I'm not going to hunt down some random picture of a person on the internet from years ago, but I will say in 2025 just getting on a treadmill 3-4x a week and not eating like crap (avoiding 75% of the aisles in the grocery) can get you to the top 30%ile for your age. Been there, done that 10ish years ago. Agree with the rest of the sentiment in this thread that (at least as you've presented it) you're not being a bad person here.
 

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I'm not going to hunt down some random picture of a person on the internet from years ago, but I will say in 2025 just getting on a treadmill 3-4x a week and not eating like crap (avoiding 75% of the aisles in the grocery) can get you to the top 30%ile for your age. Been there, done that 10ish years ago. Agree with the rest of the sentiment in this thread that (at least as you've presented it) you're not being a bad person here.

This is 100% true.

Time is a harsh mistress to women. Your beauty peaks in it's 20s, and then you start getting cottage cheese thighs and your tits start sagging, but there's one thing you do have in your favor here. In order for women to be attractive, you literally just need to have long hair and not eat like a pig. That's it. Do that, and you're ahead of literally 75% of women.

For guys, we gotta lift serious fucking weight a lot of days a week just to not look like complete shit. Counting calories ain't good enough if you're still a pile of pudge and have no definition. We gotta lift to have broad shoulders and arms women want. There's a lot of discipline involved in that, a lot of calorie counting, a lot of hard work.

Women? Seriously, just skip the chip and cookie aisle, cook something low carb every night for dinner, and you're fucking golden. Doesn't matter what else happens, you're someone's type.

And yes, no kids (and certainly no mixed race kids) means the game ain't over for you at all. In fact, just starting - because dudes in their mid 40s to early 50s have their shit together and are ready to enjoy life, and you get to enjoy it with them.

I'll be debt free (minus this house) finally this year, 6 years after I owed 120k in the divorce. I've got an interview in 8 hours for a job with the potential of a 20-30k raise. My fiance hit the fucking jackpot by being here and supporting me thru this shit. It's go time for fun time, and she gets to reap the rewards that some other woman should have, but was too fucking stupid to. And she was exactly in your situation when she met me - doing "okay" for herself, but not great, certainly not comfortable, and now she never needs to worry about a thing.

Why? No kids. Didn't let herself go into a complete sack of shit. Supports me, cooks and takes care of the house, and she's not a fucking cunt. That's a pretty low bar I feel that any woman can hit.
 
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This one is massive.

My long-term ex-girlfriend from years ago was a total type A and two type As just don't work. Everything was ALWAYS a fucking competition with her or a tennis match that had to be back and forth, keeping score.

My current wife is the total opposite. We disagree on a shitload and I've documented our massive differences on politics, medical care, etc. on these forums. However, one of the maaaaajor things she does is be my biggest cheerleader. That woman has rooted me on since nearly the day we met. Supported every major life decision I've made, career changes, supported me through a friend's suicide, the recent death of my mother, etc.

That alone goes a loooooong way in most men's books. Being a skank in the sheets helps too though.
 
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This one is massive.

My long-term ex-girlfriend from years ago was a total type A and two type As just don't work. Everything was ALWAYS a fucking competition with her or a tennis match that had to be back and forth, keeping score.

My current wife is the total opposite. We disagree on a shitload and I've documented our massive differences on politics, medical care, etc. on these forums. However, one of the maaaaajor things she does is be my biggest cheerleader. That woman has rooted me on since nearly the day we met. Supported every major life decision I've made, career changes, supported me through a friend's suicide, the recent death of my mother, etc.

That alone goes a loooooong way in most men's books. Being a skank in the sheets helps too though.


Dude, it's the best thing in the world when you have something you're doubting yourself on. Like "fuck, can I really rip the whole south wall of my house off to fix this leaking fucking window and take out all the rot and get it all back together again?" and she just goes "Yeah, you got this. And I'm gonna help."

The ex wouldda been like "maybe we should just move."

Fuuuuuuck.
 
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You're not going to have any trouble finding another guy if that's what you want. Just playing video games is already a +2-3 on the scale.

Why the hell would she want another video game nerd? They won't be any better than the manchild she has now.

Time is a harsh mistress to women. Your beauty peaks in it's 20s,

But their sex drive peaks somewhere around 40. Which I always found hotter.
 

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Why the hell would she want another video game nerd? They won't be any better than the manchild she has now.



But their sex drive peaks somewhere around 40. Which I always found hotter.
As I get older I don't really find the peaks in their 20's thing to be true anyway. They certainly have the beauty of youth, but most of them don't really know how to dress in flattering clothes, don't really know how to style themselves, don't know how to present themselves. They're cute, sure, but the overall package can be better with older chicks since older chicks often actually work out, take care of themselves, etc.

A young chick that knew these things could certainly be better, but they just often aren't. The styles young chicks wear these days are often deliberately unflattering as well, not to mention the tattoos, nose rings, colored hair...
 
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"Gentlemen, here is a picture of a 45 year old hottie, this is her at 27. First matter of business: How many hairs shall we split about which picture she looks hotter in? Second order of business: would?"
 
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As I get older I don't really find the peaks in their 20's thing to be true anyway. They certainly have the beauty of youth, but most of them don't really know how to dress in flattering clothes, don't really know how to style themselves, don't know how to present themselves. They're cute, sure, but the overall package can be better with older chicks since older chicks often actually work out, take care of themselves, etc.

A young chick that knew these things could certainly be better, but they just often aren't. The styles young chicks wear these days are often deliberately unflattering as well, not to mention the tattoos, nose rings, colored hair...
Preaching to the choir. I've been into milfs and cougars since before those terms were coined. So I'm weird, take my opinions with a grain of salt.

But I will admit it's a lot easier to be pretty in your 20s.
 

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The other part of it is that as guys get older, raw physical looks become a smaller and smaller part of the equation. Everybody has their own priorities of course, but a woman (of any age) just generally having her shit together is 1000x more important when a guy is 50 than when he's 20.
 
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Koushirou Koushirou ey, girl, single yet?
 
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As I get older I don't really find the peaks in their 20's thing to be true anyway.

Plus talking to 95% of anyone under thirty is just fucking exhausting. They're all children. I don't mean that in a "kids these days" sense, just that vanishingly few people that young have any real lived experience and the maturity that comes with it. I certainly don't have time for that shit no matter what you look like.

I will say in 2025 just getting on a treadmill 3-4x a week and not eating like crap (avoiding 75% of the aisles in the grocery) can get you to the top 30%ile for your age.

Objectively true, but the most important reason to do so (beyond health) is for the self confidence that fitness brings. It'll completely alter your internal outlook in addition to interactions with other people.
 
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Plus talking to 95% of anyone under thirty is just fucking exhausting. They're all children. I don't mean that in a "kids these days" sense, just that vanishingly few people that young have any real lived experience and the maturity that comes with it. I certainly don't have time for that shit no matter what you look like.



Objectively true, but the most important reason to do so (beyond health) is for the self confidence that fitness brings. It'll completely alter your internal outlook in addition to interactions with other people.
Some are more mature than others but mostly they're just in a completely different phase of life. They're still figuring out who they are and what life is to them. People 45-55 are, barring serious health issues, basically in the prime of their life since they are old enough to have significant resources but not old enough to have slowed down yet if they take care of themselves. They just don't have the context to discuss the things people my age discuss. They also senselessly try to impress you with things they've done which is kinda like your nephew showing you the A- he got in 10th grade math in a lot of ways.
 
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Some are more mature than others but mostly they're just in a completely different phase of life. They're still figuring out who they are and what life is to them. People 45-55 are, barring serious health issues, basically in the prime of their life since they are old enough to have significant resources but not old enough to have slowed down yet if they take care of themselves. They just don't have the context to discuss the things people my age discuss. They also senselessly try to impress you with things they've done which is kinda like your nephew showing you the A- he got in 10th grade math in a lot of ways.
My 33 year old co worker does this. I humor him and mentor him. But it is hilarious