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So is there going to be anything of significance happening in these movies? ie someone dying or major change to the universe?

Trailer does look nice but at this point these are just mindless popcorn flicks.
They need to up the ante from the first one so I bet someone will die, that someone being Hawkeye.
 

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They need to make a great movie that's awesome to watch. Arbitrarily killing someone off for manufactured drama is not part of that.
 

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Marvel knows who is to blame for the early leak of the trailer.

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Devlin

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This isn't GoT, they aren't going to be killing off any heroes.

They should replace RDJ. He's a great Stark but he's got too much say.
 

Folanlron

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This isn't GoT, they aren't going to be killing off any heroes.

They should replace RDJ. He's a great Stark but he's got too much say.
You have to find a replacement for RDJ before thinking about changing him, I think the issue is no one want's the part, everyone wants him too play Stark, but he doesn't want Stark to be his last role =/(And with Civil War coming around... people will get killed)
 

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Rumor mill is that SOMEONE is going to die. I highly doubt it's Hawkeye. He's had the last character development of any other character. It'd be disingenuous of them to just be like, what do we do with him? Dunno lol, let's kill him?

They could go the route of killing stark and using his brain for vision. There was an old rumor that vision would be the reverse ironman ,eg, stark playing Jarvis' role. Which would fit in with him being cast for cap3.

But not sure I buy that either.
 

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They need to make a great movie that's awesome to watch. Arbitrarily killing someone off for manufactured drama is not part of that.
Is not about doing it just to do it. It's all these movies have been carbon copies of each other and its getting played out;

Introduce new bad guy
Bad seems to take upper hand
Somehow good guys win

From the first Ironman until cap 2 same exact formula. I want to see some damn substance.
 

j00t

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Besides... It's ALL manufactured drama. The issue is whether or not it's organic to the story
 

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Rumor mill is that SOMEONE is going to die. I highly doubt it's Hawkeye. He's had the last character development of any other character. It'd be disingenuous of them to just be like, what do we do with him? Dunno lol, let's kill him?

They could go the route of killing stark and using his brain for vision. There was an old rumor that vision would be the reverse ironman ,eg, stark playing Jarvis' role. Which would fit in with him being cast for cap3.

But not sure I buy that either.
Can't kill Hawkeye until we get his spinoff where he hangs out with Kate Bishop & Pizza Dog.
 

Urlithani

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I hope Ultron isn't taken out permanently, and I'm guessing he won't be. The only great villain Marvel has is Loki, and they need more.
 

Grimmlokk

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Besides... It's ALL manufactured drama. The issue is whether or not it's organic to the story
Motherfucker if it's not organic THAT'S MANUFACTURED. Don't use a meta excuse of it ALL being manufactured then re-state the point I just made.


Also I swear there was some interview with Whedon where he actually said someone was dying.

Found it, though it's not as straightforward as I thought and is clearly at least sort of joking.

When asked what his general philosophy is for the sequel, without getting into details, Whedon followed up with a dark voice:"Death, death and death."
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Kreugen

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It's pretty much porn at this point. Spader's voice over scenes of crazy shit.

I like how it appears that he builds himself out of pieces of Iron Man's armor like Legion from Mass Effect.
 

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Also I swear there was some interview with Whedon where he actually said someone was dying.

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They should die. It's a good thing. It's not like they can't reboot the whole thing in a few years, but we at least get a poignant story for a moment. Sacrifices and sorrow add a lot to the story. The lack of consequences is my biggest turn-off concerning comics. The mini-series that have beginnings and endings are just better.

I'd like to get movies that are just little islands in the overall patchwork. Like, "Hey kids, did you learn what happened in World War 5? Let's take a look at the role The Avengers played." Time slips backwards to Deadpool and Human Torch eating it at the Battle of San Juan in the first five minutes of the film. Maybe a few fourth wall breaks where a kid disagrees with the teacher about what happened ala Princess Bride, and back to the story. There is no direct sequel or prequel. The next film is a separate time with +/- team members.
 

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Motherfucker if it's not organic THAT'S MANUFACTURED. Don't use a meta excuse of it ALL being manufactured then re-state the point I just made.


Also I swear there was some interview with Whedon where he actually said someone was dying.

Found it, though it's not as straightforward as I thought and is clearly at least sort of joking.



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I restating your point to someone else. But it works for you too. If they want to kill someone off because of money, that's manufactured but it's not organic to the story. If they want to kill stark to finalize his story arc and bring in vision, that's manufactured but it's organic to the story.

I don't want to see a story arc and immediately be able to figure out that it happened because of something outside the movie. Eg, Thor is unworthy because women's rights.
 

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They have Scarlett Witch to alter reality and a story that will probably take us into a bleak future where ultron had ruled unchecked before being undone. Lots of death should be a given.