Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Back in the 80's Marvel had two visions of how powers are gained.

Mutants were born with their powers. Some gained them right away, some in their teens, some later in life. The key point was they alwahs had their powers from birth.

Altered humans gained their powers later in life through external means. They were not born with any dormant powers. External means ie, gamma radiation for Hulk, super solider serum for Captain America, radioactive spider bite for Spider Man etc.

Now they were both considered humans. How they gained their powers was what made them different.

Also you had other races who were not human who had powers. Asgardians, Olympians, Externals, Inhumans, Titans, etc. They appeared human but were not of Earth. Thor, Hercules, Loki, Thanos, Black Bolt, Gilgamesh, etc were these powers.

The mutant verses altered human thing has always been weird for me in the 80's/90's comic lines I read. As mutants were feared and altered humans were mostly seen as heroes. Even though both types had as many heroes as villains. But that is not really the point.

Just stating Marvel's take on it from the 80's/90's that may have change with the revamps in 2000's however.

Let's refocus on something we can all agree on: talking about the 'next week' preview should be forbidden before the next episode aired!

Oh I forgot the third type of human hero. Techie. Using technology to be a hero. Tony Stark/Iron Man is the easiest example of that. No internal powers, unless via implants, all tech based.

Since it airs after the current episode, and will be seen up and until the next episode airs, that makes no sense.

previews are fair game, just because torrents dont always include them doesnt mean you cant talk about them. i have not seen next episode's preview yet.... oh wait lemme find it.


seen it. now everyone else can too.

Ya, the "Coming Next week" previews are fair game. They air after the show, but are frequently left out of torrents. Boo hoo, pirates.

Did you know that to detect brain tumors doctors ask their patients if they watch the 'coming next week' previews after TV shows?

Right, they can't use mutants, but Inhumans works nicely since they resulted from alien genetic engineering (aliens are ok, since this is tied to Avengers/Thor) and the granting powers things involves a special substance (show has gone out of it's way to show that special substances can give powers). They can also use it as a backdoor explanation as to why "normal" humans can sometimes develop powers with seemingly no outside assistance, like that fire dude.

And Szila, some people like to see what there is to look forward to in the next episode. Helps one gauge as to whether or not they want to watch the show when it airs or watch it later ;p

Cybsled_sl said:

Ya, the "Coming Next week" previews are fair game. They air after the show, but are frequently left out of torrents. Boo hoo, pirates.

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I avoid them, so torrents are great for this show.

Previews that spoil nearly every aspect of an episode are almost as bad as the "this just happened" "this will happen" that is often inside the actual episodes of various shows now. NCIS is the champion of those I think. Spoil what will happen between each commercial break, because people in the US apparently don't have longer attention spans than 10 minutes and forget what they were watching? Only reasoning I can think of to do it.

In the NCIS example you can quite literally have a scene where the agents are in danger, some sort of action sequence build up, then just before the commercial break, you have a greyed out 2-3 second "this just happened", in case you have Alzheimers, then to finish the stupidity off, once the commercial break ends they then have a 2-3 second greyed out sequence again where you see what is happening before the next commercial break. Often showing an agent smiling or whatever, so you know the outcome is good, just not how it got to that point.

Just.... So shitty TV.

That being said. This series is getting better. I know he has no real part in the development, but it is starting to feel sorta Joss Whedonish. At least in a copy cat sort of way. Slower paced episodes in the start to build characters that you hopefully will care about, and as such, have more interest in them when they get into danger or whatever. Doing it like that also makes it so they can make entire episodes devoted to whatever character they wish, because everyone in the group is someone, not just "generic character". Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Dollhouse. All built around the same concept. Makes for a slower beginning as they build character stories, but gives vastly larger range to where they can take later episodes.

Well they not only name checked Hydra but also A.I.M. (well and centipede...) So there is some chance we may get better villains at somepoint.

Also with Gravitron and now Blizzard they are doing a pretty darn good job of making terrible terrible just plain awful villains into intriguing characters. So well done there

skye is not human

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Not according to Astroderp

According to me if skye is a mutated earth human she is still human. If she is from another world then she is a humanoid alien.

Maester Chuk_sl said:

According to me if skye is a mutated earth human she is still human. If she is from another world then she is a humanoid alien.

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So you just make shit up is what you are basically saying..

Column_sl said:

So you just make shit up is what you are basically saying..

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i know its a hard concept for you and i keep dumbing shit down for you, but at some point you need to ask mommy to help you follow the posts on this board.

IF YOU ARE A HUMAN FROM EARTH, WITH OR WTHOUT A MUTATION, YOU ARE STILL HUMAN.

if you are from another world, galaxy, dimension, anywhere but originated from earth you are an alien, if you resemble a human then you are a humanoid alien. thanks for playing.

IF YOU ARE A HUMAN FROM EARTH, WITH OR WTHOUT A MUTATION, YOU ARE STILL HUMAN.

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Wrong, In the Marvel universe a Mutant is not a Human.

From the Marvel Dictionary

Homo sapiens sapiens

This branch of humanity, known as "humans", "normals", or the derogatory "flatscans", are born without powers, and are considered the "base stock" among the descendants of the Celestial altered Homo sapiens.

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Homo sapiens superior

due to the human genetic potential to support benevolent mutations, has spontaneously develop a gene within the newly created zygote which endows superhuman abilities and/or appearance on the individual; however, anyone born with this "X-gene" is automatically considered a member of what has been named Homo sapiens superior, individuals distinguished only by the presence of a single gene. The gifts endowed by the presence of the gene can be minimal (one mutant, Jazz, simply has blue skin), to phenomenal (such as the abilities of any well-known powerful mutant hero or villain, for example, many of the X-Men, or former members of the Brotherhood of Mutants). There are any number of theories as to what can catalyze the development of the gene within an individual, ranging from sunspot activity, to parental exposure to radiation in some form; however, ultimately, the answer is unknown.

The number of so-called"mutants" within humanityas a whole has risen dramatically

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skye is not human, she was designated the 0-8-4, which as we all know is the code used for fricking asgardian war hammers and shit they don't know. "something of unknown origin"

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How many people have to tell you are full of shit till it sinks in?

if you resemble a human then you are a humanoid alien

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Lulz, wtf, This guy has to smoke crack there is no other explanation.



Hey Nightcrawler did you know you were a human? Must be a load off of your ass.

im convinced, the only non human here is you.

Maester Chuk_sl said:

im convinced, the only non human here is you.

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And that is game set and match.


Astroderp, once again failing at even backing up his own statements.
Like I said earlier, stick with Arrow they wont confuse your brain since they write for the braindead.

i have schooled you a half dozens times , even corky would have gotten the point by now, but since you arent human but a mutated toad, the shit just isnt getting through to you.