Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

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Agraza

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Yea, the continuity people for the film&tv MCU need to lay in some big stuff that early SHIELD was involved in, so that Carter can then focus on those stories without fucking up canon.
 

Drakain

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Just a reminder Agent Carter starts up tomorrow night with a two hour episode. Since its only a short run I didn't think it warranted its own thread.
 

Rais

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A feminist heroine who could care less for wimpy Rodgers, yet panties gushed for roaided half naked Rodgers and with jealous fits. Thank god they are going to tackle sexism in this series. I look forward to not watching this.
 

Rais

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I was serious about Peggy. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D I enjoy and watch with pleasure. I was luke warm about this show till I read more about it. I was looking forward to a real 40s/50s spy show dealing with the development of SHIELD. Not a woman empowering show to get a small handful of women to like Marvel comics. A RDJ and half nude Cris Hemsworth has that part covered.

Years before Agent Phil Coulson and his S.H.I.E.L.D. team swore to protect those who cannot protect themselves from threats they cannot conceive, there was Agent Peggy Carter (Hayley Atwell, Marvel's Captain America: The First Avenger, Marvel's Captain America: The Winter Soldier) who pledged the same oath but lived in a different time when women weren't recognized as being as smart or as tough as their male counterparts.
But no one should ever underestimate Peggy.

It's 1946 and peace has dealt Peggy a serious blow as she finds herself marginalized when the men return home from fighting abroad. Working for the covert SSR (Strategic Scientific Reserve), Peggy finds herself stuck doing administrative work when she would rather be back out in the field ? putting her vast skills into play and taking down the bad guys. But she is also trying to navigate life as a single woman in America, in the
wake of losing the love of her life, Steve Rogers ? aka Captain America.
 

Malakriss

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Or in a non-sexist rant: a female Coulson with some actual interesting backstory would be nice.
 

Agraza

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I thought the prologue episode was very heavy handed with the girl power angle, but I'm willing to give it a shot. SHIELD started off badly as well. I just think they could have done something less cliche. Female covert agents never went out of style. They weren't demoted to typists. There is no shortage of typists that would require it. Women covert agents just weren't the Daniel Craig version of James Bond. They were deep cover honeypots meant to deceive men. I think her extracting herself from said deep cover would have been more plausible and less prone to the more in-your-face sexist cliches. And her capacity to physically defeat not one but several men with several times her bodymass is silly too. She's not supposed to be a superhero. Like Harrison Ford shooting the guy rather than getting in a sword fight, she should be leveraging technology and intelligence 99% of the time and judo chops 1% of the time while making it clear that getting in a fist fight is both perilous and unnecessary for her.

TL;DR it could be better, but what alternative programming do I have? Perhaps it will grow out of the high school hijinks in time.
 

Void

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I'm not going to delve into the feminism stuff because I can't check my male privilege, but I like Peggy and I'm looking forward to the show.
 

Drakain

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I was serious about Peggy. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D I enjoy and watch with pleasure. I was luke warm about this show till I read more about it. I was looking forward to a real 40s/50s spy show dealing with the development of SHIELD. Not a woman empowering show to get a small handful of women to like Marvel comics. A RDJ and half nude Cris Hemsworth has that part covered.
Your link more less described the Marvel One Shot of Agent Carter... Which this show is based.... Awwww fuck.... As I'm typing this they just aired a new commercial that talked about ABCs tradition of powerful women blah blah blah.... I was excited for this. I really hope its not woman power for seven weeks.
 

Chukzombi

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Your link more less described the Marvel One Shot of Agent Carter... Which this show is based.... Awwww fuck.... As I'm typing this they just aired a new commercial that talked about ABCs tradition of powerful women blah blah blah.... I was excited for this. I really hope its not woman power for seven weeks.
due to not a fucking thing being on tv, i will also give this a shot. probably watch it for a few weeks as the pilot is not always a barometer of what to expect from a greenlit full run. the chick is cute, i will put with some girl power nonsense for a bit, but if they get all 1945 SJW on me i doubt i stick around. then again there is literally nothing on TV tuesday nights til the end of this month.
 

The Ancient_sl

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You guys are fucking obsessed with SJW, it's pathetic.

Yes, there will be some heavy "girl power" in this show. It's a strong, leading woman in a world much more male dominated than today. That's a large part of the premise. Get over it.
 

Chanur

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Who cares if it's female empowering. She's a badass and it really works for her. Its not annoying or in your face. Get over it.
 

Agraza

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Man they're trying hard to set the bar low. She had one good takedown, when she used the stairs and borrowed a bag to clothesline Van Ert. Simple, smart, effective. What the whole show could be.

The low point was soon thereafter when she wrecked the blob, and then got his unconscious body into a chair and tied him up. Most of the male agents wouldn't have been able to solo that job, but she can.
 

Chukzombi

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Chuk must really hate Mad Men then ;p
chuk was bored to death after one episode of mad men, corporate drama doesnt interest me.

watched the Carter pilot, lots of cringeworthy portrayals of misogyny and they really milked every one of her scenes in the first Cap. the 1940s setting is really well done and i do like the story, jarvis is my favorite so far. watching the second episode now, seems like they toned down on the "all men are pigs" schtick. hope this continues. second episode was better. hopefully stark is actually on this show for more than the 2 minutes in the pilot. i mean his rep seems to be the focal point of this show. also the speeded up acfion was hokey. they need to cut that benny hill shit out.
 

Chukzombi

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What sped up action? Did I miss something?
they did it through the milk truck fight scene, it kept switching from normal speed to speeded up. i can understand why when dealing with actors that are not super physical, but its their own fault for setting up a scene like that. i guess some producer wasnt satisfied with carter's fighting so they punched it up a little. still was hokey.
 

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I enjoyed it. Yeah, the misogyny is laid on thick, but who didn't expect that going in?

Anyone else think Daniel's grandson is going to be a new york cop?