MLB 2013 season

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chris davis has always had immense power but had a huge hole in his swing when he was with texas. i'm happy for his success this year but i doubt he's going to be an elite hitter for years to come.

also, i think the effects of steroids are grossly exaggerated. barry bonds was a 40-home run hitter his entire career, was on steroids for several years and had one outlier in which he hit 73 home runs.
 
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supertouch_sl said:
chris davis has always had immense power but had a huge hole in his swing when he was with texas. i'm happy for his success this year but i doubt he's going to be an elite hitter for years to come.

also, i think the effects of steroids are grossly exaggerated. barry bonds was a 40-home run hitter his entire career, was on steroids for several years and had one outlier in which he hit 73 home runs.
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Look at his stats the other years. He had 232 walks one year, 120 of which were intentional. His OBP was fucking .609 lmao. He never broke 100 strikeouts in a year, Davis already has over 100, and like 160 last year.

Steroids made a hall of famer into the best hitter ever.

Not to mention McGwire, Sosa and everyone else.
 
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No guys this time it's totally different. THIS .270 hitter who is now on pace for 65 homeruns is totally different than all the other .270 hitters who suddenly started hitting 40 points higher and doubled their homerun rate. This one is totally legit. You see he's always been big so steroids totally wouldn't help him at all.

Haters.
 
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He knew it right away. Those Cubans are an arrogant bunch. I love it.

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supertouch_sl said:
also, i think the effects of steroids are grossly exaggerated
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i used HGH throughout college for baseball, and i don't think you've educated yourself enough to understand what exactly supplements can do for you.

small things like spraining muscles nearly becomes impossible
recovering from full strains in under a month
huge increases in eye movement reaction time
 
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what the fuck are you talking about? steroids don't magically fix holes in your swing. chris davis had a career 30% k rate in the majors and it improved tremendously this year. the whole contact rate argument is irrelevant now anyway because he's struck out a lot this month. he went 3 for 30-something recently and all the hits were home runs.

and i'm assuming you're referring to barry bonds' 2002 and 2004 k rates. the dude was walked so often that he didn't have the chance to strike out.
 
Tarrant

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Yeah, magically having the best BA of his career for those 4 years was just coincidence. that year he batted .370 woulda happened on its own I'm sure. Even with all the crazy amount of walks he had he still avg'ed the same amount of hits those years as per his career averages and his Avg still went up, he was putting more balls in play with less opportunities to swing at them then ever before in his career.

Go educate yourself, juice can speed up eye movement and reaction times as well as all the other this we know of. It's capable of making you a more powerful hitter and a better on in general.
 
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he had a batting average of .370 a few years after he began using steroids. so fucking what? he hit .336 in 1993 when he was noticeably thinner and was the best hitter in major league history. steroids didn't change barry bonds' numbers that much over the course of his career. i'd even argue that he was better before using them.
 
Tarrant

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.370 isn't much different than .336?

I wish you would have just told me you were retarded from the beginning, it would have saved me the time from trying to talk to you about this.
 
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are YOU retarded? there's nothing to suggest steroids had anything to do with his highest batting averages. his highest averages and highest intentional walk rates were concurrent so it probably had to do with the way he was being pitched .
 
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Tarrant_sl said:
.370 isn't much different than .336?

I wish you would have just told me you were retarded from the beginning, it would have saved me the time from trying to talk to you about this.
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I thought it was common knowledge that supertouch is retarded, even fellow Ranger fans hate him.
 
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and you neg me in a baseball thread. it's kind of sad that you have to be a socially inept mongoloid to have a "positive" reputation on this site. you clearly don't understand that there's a correlation between his highest batting averages and intentional walks. WHAT EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THE STEROIDS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS .370 AVERAGE?
 
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Generally the harder you hit the ball, the better your BABIP is going to be, which would of course help your overall batting average. The year he hit .370 his BABIP was 55 points higher than his career average. I am not aware of any evidence that suggests steroids help your hand-eye coordination though.
 
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I hate to break it to you guys, but supertouch is right.

Chris Davis's fangraphs player page

Yes, his ISO has spiked this year, but he had a similar amount of power throughout his minor league career.

He's increased his walk rate and decreased his strikeouts, along with some BABIP luck (although he's always run a slightly higher BABIP than the "normal" .300 most hitters hang out at). This is a guy who is only 27, and while we have a decent sense of how players age in general, it's far from unheard of for a guy to take a big step forward at that age.

There's basically no evidence to think this has anything to do with any performance enhancing drugs, and one of the worst products of the "steroid era" is that people have started jumping at every shadow.

Did supertouch get RRPed for these posts, or for something else?
 
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