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Most underrated and overrated movies ever
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Yeah that's not a good movie though, that's background noise. It's hard to really express how disappointing Resurrection was back then. Especially coming off the disappointment of 3. I had just finished reading Aliens: Tribes and watching The City of Lost Children when it came out, so I was already at half mast. But that movie is a meandering, pointless mess. There's nothing redeeming in the entire thing. All that hybrid nonsense, so stupid, so disappointing with such pretty ok source material to draw from out there but instead they have just opted for mediocrity.
I'd think maybe it's time for a rewatch and to reevaluate but no, I don't think I will.
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Biggest problem with Alien 3 was that Dark Horse had some amazing ideas in comic book form for where to take the series, like Earth War, that never got realized because they decided to not use those ideas and just make a prison reboot of the first alien movie. Now, there were some good things about the movie like basically showing how dangerous a single alien was to unarmed people and the murder doctor guy, but they basically single handedly killed the idea of anything like earth war ever happening and a lot of fans were pissed over that (myself among them). Whedon tried to steer things back into that direction with the ending of A4, complete with clone Ripley more or less filling in the Newt role from the comics, but that movie was all over the place and fucked up in other ways with him trying to do a Firefly alpha version with it.
If you have not read the Dark Horse Predator and Alien books from the 80s and 90s, they are worth checking out for non shitty storylines from that universe. Short version is Newt grows up and goes back to retake earth, which is overrun with Aliens and meanwhile some badass law woman chick from some outpost spends years hunting aliens with a group of predators. The two eventually meet on earth and help lead the reclaiming of earth with Ripley.
If you have not read the Dark Horse Predator and Alien books from the 80s and 90s, they are worth checking out for non shitty storylines from that universe. Short version is Newt grows up and goes back to retake earth, which is overrun with Aliens and meanwhile some badass law woman chick from some outpost spends years hunting aliens with a group of predators. The two eventually meet on earth and help lead the reclaiming of earth with Ripley.
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Edit- And about Aliens 2, it took the whole franchise in a more action less horror direction, but it stands out to me as the quintessential 80s action sci-fi movie (along with Predator) and holds up fairly well to the present. Biggest problem I have with it is that if you do not see the extended version, a lot of parts make no sense. Specifically there is a scene where Burke and Ripley discuss how her daughter grew old without her that sets up the Newt relationship and a whole sequence with the automated miniguns that explains the whole alien assault on the Ops better. The second one is the bigger omission, because there are actually lines referring to the scene in the original cut and a bunch of their defense strategy/reactions to the assault does not make complete sense without it.
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Now you're talking, Prometheus is definitely underrated. Enjoyed it immensely.
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Alien 3 was not that bad in the grand scheme of horror/sci-fi.
The whole space prison colony (oh how I wish we could have them now) was cool.
"I'm a murderer and rapist of women. Lady, you don't want to know me".
Prometheus was a visually beautiful movie and was entertaining for the most part. For awhile there it was on TV all the time, and I left it up in the background whenever it was.
The whole space prison colony (oh how I wish we could have them now) was cool.
"I'm a murderer and rapist of women. Lady, you don't want to know me".
Prometheus was a visually beautiful movie and was entertaining for the most part. For awhile there it was on TV all the time, and I left it up in the background whenever it was.
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Wasn't Alien 3 the one where she developed the weird mother/child relationship with the Alien?
That was total crap.
That was total crap.
chaos
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That's Resurrection. 3 is the prison planet where Roc and Tywin Lannister protect her from some guys who want to rape her, then a dog alien kills them all, then she dies like jesus because movies.
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Oh, right. Yeah, that wasn't bad.
Resurrection was total crap. Like "WTF were you thinking" levels of crap.
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I feel like the first AvP with the chick getting like baptized a "warrior" by the one Pred to fight the Queen was some of the dumbest shit I ever saw.
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chaos
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3 is bad because of all the promise it had. a young Fincher directing, Weaver still in her prime, all the cast from Alien 2 was there. If they hadn't fucked that up, that could have been the biggest movie of the decade. But they fucked it up and sent in a bad movie.
4 is bad because it isn't even an Alien movie. They took the zany french guy and had him make.. whatever that shit is. And i love him as an artist, but that movie is fucking dogshit and you are a bad person if you like it.
The AvP movies, tbh I didn't watch any after the first one. I read the comics where the aliens had basically infested Earth and the Predators sent their team of hunters, can't remember all the details but it was awesome. The movie was not. didn't watch any of the rest because I just assumed they would suck.
Same with Predator. Predator 1 was just an amazing movie. 2 I don't remember all that much of, but I remember it being meh but not terrible. Then they just started raping it over and over. The one where they drop all the guys onto the planet was almost ok, but in the end it sucked. Hollywood just can't get right.
4 is bad because it isn't even an Alien movie. They took the zany french guy and had him make.. whatever that shit is. And i love him as an artist, but that movie is fucking dogshit and you are a bad person if you like it.
The AvP movies, tbh I didn't watch any after the first one. I read the comics where the aliens had basically infested Earth and the Predators sent their team of hunters, can't remember all the details but it was awesome. The movie was not. didn't watch any of the rest because I just assumed they would suck.
Same with Predator. Predator 1 was just an amazing movie. 2 I don't remember all that much of, but I remember it being meh but not terrible. Then they just started raping it over and over. The one where they drop all the guys onto the planet was almost ok, but in the end it sucked. Hollywood just can't get right.
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chaos
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Yup, and Ron Perlman in his amazing basketball debut. And Shelley in her debut as the gross hybrid thing.
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I rustled the shit out of someone on Youtube bitching about how dumb the scientists were on that movie.
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Speaking of dumb scientists, remember when she was a Nuclear Physicist? Named Christmas?
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