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Genjiro

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You could put a down payment on a house for what it cost to just get a handful of vintage cards.
 

Heylel

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You want to see something really crazy, go look at the missprints, test prints, and other rarities on eBay. $275k for a set of Summer Magic?
 

Punko

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The low end for a competitive deck that does not run ABU duals, but is still not burn or some weird outlier, is probably around $2,000.00.

I'm not sure how much legacy merfolk costs, but it may be a good bit cheaper come to think of it, especially if EMA lowers the price of force of wills. I feel like most people arent looking to play legacy merfolk tho.
Eldrazi is one of the strongest T1 decks around and costs between 650-1200$ depending on exact build, and thats online store prices straight from mtg top8. Its also straightforward to play, with a lot of "free wins".

Looking atEldrazi Aggro - patrickstj @ mtgtop8.comwhich is a very cheap build, the 2 city of traitors are 260$ out of 687$, and since those are on the reserved list you can't really lose money on them. The budget build is in the same range asBant Company - Moritz Gro? @ mtgtop8.com, and shit isn't going to rotate into low value either.

I can't imagine how a standard player that needs jaces to be competitive can rationalize such a shitty investment.

Merforlk is not a T1 legacy deck by far.
 

Heylel

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Jace isn't going to drop THAT much on rotation. I haven't picked them up because fuck $80 standard cards, but he's down to what, $55 now? When he's in the 40s I'll grab them for modern/legacy/vintage reasons.

It will most definitely not be the next Liliana of the Veil. Speaking of which, I can't imagine a world where she doesn't see a reprint in EMA.
 

Punko

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Jace is going to drop like a rock.

From 1st january 2016 until now, Jace was played in 448 standard decks that are mentioned on MTG top 8. He was played in 55 modern decks, and 22 legacy ones in the same period.

Adding that he is played as a 4 off in standard, and as a 1-3 in modern and legacy.. if you buy them for 40$ you wasting money, I don't mind that, just be aware.
 

drtyrm

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We've had this discussion before but the frequency and quality of legacy events in your area is also a big barrier for folks, even beyond the pricing.
 

Punko

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I'm going to partially blame that on the misconception that legacy is more expensive over time then standard.

You know, like when people think buying Vryn Jaces is a financially sound plan, but think 300$ for a reserved list card is an expensive investment.
 

Heylel

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Yes, very true on reserved stuff. I don't have much sympathy for our local modern players who will drop $150 on goyf printing #3 but balk at the price of a dual land.

As for legacy availability... We are spoiled as fuck in Atlanta. I can play sanctioned legacy three or more times a week in this town, and we fire no proxy, sanctioned vintage monthly plus a legacy league quarterly. It's an embarrassment of riches.
 

Punko

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SCG is sponsoring an IQ in Amsterdam next month. (24th - 26th), happy to see them entering the euro market.

Will be attending a Magic Card Market sponsored event in the 1st week of june then later on the month Amsterdam, while also playing our bi-weekly local tournament, which has kinda grown in a near weekly event since there are always people wanting to play ..

I could not find that amount of standard events within a reasonable distance, nm modern because noone in europe seems to like that.

MKM offers decent sponsoring, if you put up some of their banners they provide 1? / player in prize support, along with free pens & scorebooks. It ain't much but its entirely free so
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Kuro

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GP Charlotte apparently shit the coats. Event software is broken so pairings are being done completely at random, and half the event dropped after round 4 to get refund-badge.

Makes me excited for what Passtimes will do at Minneapolis next week to assert their dominance as "Terrible Event Runners."
 

Flight

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U/B Mill goes 8-0-1 day 1 at GP LA (Modern). Prices will go nuts on those cards if it does even just okay day 2. Casuals love them some mill.

List :Jinlin Li Deck


Deck has been under development for a long time, with a few recent pieces of tech bringing it together. Ross Merriam did an article on SCG on it a couple days ago. Further reading :


UB Mill 8-0-1 at GP LA : magicTCG

[Deck] UBx Mill - Developing Competitive (Modern) - Modern - The Game - MTG Salvation Forums - MTG Salvation

StarCityGames.com - Daily Digest: The Miller's Tale
 

Xalara

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GP Charlotte apparently shit the coats. Event software is broken so pairings are being done completely at random, and half the event dropped after round 4 to get refund-badge.

Makes me excited for what Passtimes will do at Minneapolis next week to assert their dominance as "Terrible Event Runners."
To be fair, the problem was WotC's fault in this case. Doesn't make it any better, GP Los Angeles almost encountered the same database corruption bug but they avoided it by pulling the internet cord on the score keeping computers.

It's apparently hard for WotC to make a score keeping program. I mean the previous version only did a full database table scan for every player for every round when computing the pairings (why they didn't store that data in memory I have no fucking clue).
 

Heylel

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WotC notoriously refuses to pay market rates for software development, and this is the result. WLTR is shit the bed at least one round every time I've worked an event where it was used. This was definitely the worst, but it always ends up causing an emergency call to WotC to recover something before the day is over.
 

Xalara

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I'm local to the Seattle area and am a software developer so I am well aware of how WotC doesn't pay market rate. It's just that the mistakes I keep hearing about in their software are of the "Not even a college student would make that mistake" variety.
 

Xalara

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Anyway I got third/fourth with GW tokens in that PPTQ I posted about earlier. It was at Mox Boarding House which is always fun to play at. Unfortunately I punt kept a hand I shouldn't have against BG Aurora ramp/control and lost. That BG Aurora Ramp/Control deck is pretty sweet so I'm not even mad.