NBA 2012-13 Season Thread - Crown The Heat!

This Daz guy sure sounds like a character!

Gaige thinks he brings value? Wait, this made me chuckle. I'm so confused!!!!

Daezuel_sl said:

Let's try to figure out what team he likes...bandwagons...bandwagons....hmm. Ok, either a 49er fan

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Fuck you, Rams. That's fucking low. The day that faggot starts "rooting" for the 49ers, is that day I drown myself in bleach. Jozu is bad enough.

Kirun_sl said:

Fuck you, Rams. That's fucking low. The day that faggot starts "rooting" for the 49ers, is that day I drown myself in bleach. Jozu is bad enough.

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lol, this was good.

Gaige_sl said:

Dirk had Chandler. Without Chandler the next year they got swept in the first round by the team the Heat destroyed in the Finals. So wipe Dirk off that list. Akeem had Drexler and Kenny Smith. Rick Barry is 100 years old so whatever, I'll give you that one.

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Drexler was on the Rockets for the second title, not the first. Also, his name is Hakeem, with an H.

I don't like silent Hs. Ya but the previous Rocket team had Smith, Horry, Thorpe etc. They were still good.

So now Pau Gasol it's better than Wade? Whenever I think you can't get any dumber you make another post.

I'll give you Shaq, but then again Shaq>Lebron. Shaq's best year puts Lebrons best year to shame.

But to say Kobe isn't one of the greatest offensive players of all time is stupid as fuck. He averaged 35.6ppg in 2006. That's ridiculous. 81 points in a game. Multiple games where he had 50+ points and sat during the 3rd quarter because it was a blowout. He's a damn good defender too.

During the back to backs? Fuck yes Gasol was better than Wade in the playoffs. Wade was garbage outside maybe 3 or 4 playoff games this year. Bosh no showed a lot. Battier had a huge slump. Allen had a huge slump. While his roleplayers put together some games when it mattered, LeBron got them through the playoffs. Like game 6, everyone will credit Allen and it's deserved but they don't even get close without LeBron dominating in the 4Q.

Now you're starting this Shaq > LeBron shit lol. Okay man. Shaq is amazing but I wouldn't say he is better than LeBron. Again, let's compare when LeBron is, oh I dunno, retired? The guy is 28, has played 10 years and has 4 mvps, two finals mvps and two rings.

LeBron averaged 31.4 ppg (and 6.6 rpg/7.0 apg) in 05-06, 30ppg (and 7.9 rpg/7.2 apg) in 07-08, and 29.7ppg (and 7.3rpg/8.3apg) in 09-10. The 81 point game Kobe took fucking 46 shots (13 from 3) - which was 15 more than the rest of his team combined - and it was against the Raptors who were 27-55 and had the second most PPG allowed in the entire NBA.

I hope he has multiple 50 point games because he jacks up a ton of shots. If you're telling me that LeBron couldn't break 80 points shooting 46 shots with 13 3s against the worst defense in the NBA then you're fucking insane. He could do it easily. He is one of the most efficient scorers in the NBA. He shot like 56% from the floor and 41% from 3P this year. He just won't. It isn't his game.

Kobe doesn't facilitate to his teammates anywhere close to LeBron. Kobe a good defender? Really? Does he guard 1-5? Does he spend entire second halves on the other team's best player no matter position? Well? Does he play 50 minutes in an OT game 6 and then come out in game 7 and drop 37/12 while shooting 50% from 3? All while guarding Parker and shutting him the fuck down in two must win games?

This made me laugh, because it's true.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/rup...-stalin,32908/

I want to see Goebbels in a Lebron jersey.

It's sad but true. I was very embarrassed of my team's fanbase after the game 6 debacle with fans leaving the stadium. Fucking entitled rich Miami douchebags.

Anyone saying Lebron is gonna jump ship again is just trolling though. There's no better spot for him, even with Wade declining and Bosh being so inconsistent. He's got quality roleplayers around him and management that wants that to continue. He scored amazingly when it was just him, three 3 pt shooters and Bosh or Andersen on the floor. No reason that can't continue.

I would not be surprised to see Wade take a bigger paycut in the next year or two when he realizes he's not performing like he used to, and the Heat try to trade Bosh plus some stuff to get a quality defensive big man down there (a younger Andersen would be enough) and whatever else they need at the time. As sad as it makes me, I could see Haslem being let go if he doesn't take a pay cut as well, they are going to be concerned about the salaray cap, so anyone being paid too much for what they have been putting up is in danger. They will keep lebron at all costs, and barring him agreeing to it, Wade will never be traded. He will retire in a Heat jersey. He's too big a part of the team and community to go anywhere if he doesn't want to.

Chalmers slowly developing and stepping up when James/Wade aren't in rhythm is huge for the team going forward. He has been the better 3rd offensive weapon over Bosh most of the season, but Bosh's size/rebounding/defense has been vital in some matchups. Can't just let him go without getting someone to fill that role. I would prefer he consistently lived up to his paycheck, but that seems unlikely.

I'm gonna toss a for instance out there: Let's say Wade and Bosh were to leave the Heat, Lebron stays. Lebron then wins a title having "built" a team himself. Thoughts?

Lebron could well end up the best player ever. I'm not sure anyone has ever said anything different really. He just isn't yet.

And to amend that, I mean, statistically. I'm not sure you can completely categorize popularity and entertainment from stats alone. There may never be another player like Magic Johnson for instance.

jeydax_sl said:

I'm gonna toss a for instance out there: Let's say Wade and Bosh were to leave the Heat, Lebron stays. Lebron then wins a title having "built" a team himself. Thoughts?

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Well then we can start asking how many titles Jordan would have won if he never quit to play baseball!

Slaythe_sl said:

See while you look at 2006 and go "35 PPG holy shit!" I look at his stats and see it took him 27 shots to do it. How in the living hell are you going to possibly explain to me that he was efficient doing that? Durant has been at or near 30 the past 4 seasons taking nearly 10 less. Efficiency is what makes you a good player in this league. Not numbers. Kobe got to the line a shit ton that year which was the only thing that kept him in the 'decent volume scorer' category rather than 'inefficient chucker that doesn't help you win games.'

Now I already know the response to this. Who else was supposed to score that year? Doesn't matter. Transcendent players find a way to be efficient regardless of who they play with. Look at LeBron in Cleveland for a perfect example or CP3 in NOH. Kobe has a 16 year run of being a very good player. There is nothing about his statistics outside of a very small sample size of outlier games that put him anywhere near the elite category. You're fooling yourself to think otherwise. And "omg 35 points on 27 shots!" isn't helping your cause.

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When did Durant or CP3 average 35.6ppg? Exactly. The fact that they averaged less points on less shots so they're better is retarded. And really you're comparing people like Smush Parker and Kwame Brown to Westbrook and Harden? Kobe's team was far worse than any of their teams and he single handedly carried them to the playoffs and a 3-1 lead over the much better Suns.

Your a "small sample size of outlier games" is Gaige level stupid.

Alex_sl said:

Well then we can start asking how many titles Jordan would have won if he never quit to play baseball!

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Non-sequitur discussion. He clearly had to quit baseball because of his gambling.