NFL 2015-2016 Season Thread

zzeris

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Cam walking out was immature but plenty of coaches have done that. Plenty of players too. Im glad he was frustrated that his TOs were a defining factor in the loss. The NFC is a lot more competitive than the AFC so it will be good to see how it plays out next year. Wouldn't mind seeing Arians make that next step.
 

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I was 8 years old in '85 and all I remember about that superbowl was the superbowl shuffle but I have never seen a pass rush like this Denver team has.
The 84 Bears had 72 sacks on the season. The Panthers had 44 this year. You may not remember it but that Defense was more then just a scheme, unlike what Lenardo says, they were fucking amazing.
 

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Losing the Super Bowl in humiliating fashion is very tough, especially when it was your fault and you are the face of the franchise. I don't really blame him too much but it was damaging for him because he needed to shake that perception of him that he is a sore loser and is a fairweather player and only shows energy when things are going smooth and the team is winning.

They should win their division next year as well and if they can get home field again they can easily make it to championship game.
 

Brahma

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Losing the Super Bowl in humiliating fashion is very tough, especially when it was your fault and you are the face of the franchise. I don't really blame him too much but it was damaging for him because he needed to shake that perception of him that he is a sore loser and is a fairweather player and only shows energy when things are going smooth and the team is winning.

They should win their division next year as well and if they can get home field again they can easily make it to championship game.
25% his fault. 40% that Denver defense, and 25% that offensive line of his. 10% coaching for not adjusting at all.
 

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The 84 Bears had 72 sacks on the season. The Panthers had 44 this year. You may not remember it but that Defense was more then just a scheme, unlike what Lenardo says, they were fucking amazing.
Thought we were comparing them to Denver, Denver had 52 sacks this season (led the league). But they had 14 sacks in 3 playoff games (led the playoffs) against Roethlisberger, Brady, and Newton. Pretty impressive, especially in this day and age of the passing game.
 

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Thought we were comparing them to Denver, Denver had 52 sacks this season (led the league). But they had 14 sacks in 3 playoff games (led the playoffs) against Roethlisberger, Brady, and Newton. Pretty impressive, especially in this day and age of the passing game.
So people pass more and the defense has sacks and that is surprising? That's like saying you are shocked there are very few droughts in Seattle. The 84 Bears had 10 sacks in two post season games and the 85 Bears had 16 in 3 post season games. The 85 Bears had 66 sacks on the season. So the 84-85 Bears eclipsed the Broncos defense two years in a row in a game where people passed less.

The mid-80's Bears pass rush was unreal and shits on the Broncos pass rush.
 

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If I was going to compare the 85 Bears defense and 15 Denver defense, then I would say the 85 Bears were pure brute strength while the 15 Denver were speed.

Really hard to compare since the game has changed - spearing receivers anybody *remembers Gary Fencik at safety.
 

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The 84 Bears had 72 sacks on the season. The Panthers had 44 this year. You may not remember it but that Defense was more then just a scheme, unlike what Lenardo says, they were fucking amazing.
also, one has to remember that back the those days QB's werent treated as virgin princesses who can't be touched in any way
 

Arcaus_sl

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also, one has to remember that back the those days QB's werent treated as virgin princesses who can't be touched in any way
True. It's also a passing league now. The opponents of the 85 Bears had 522 Pass Attempts. The opponents of the 84 Bears had 435 passing attempts. The 15 Broncos opponents had 573 passing attempts. So the 84 Bears had 20 more sacks in 138 less attempts. You can't even compare them. The Broncos are no where near the pass rush the mid-80's Bears had.
 

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Any estimates on how much Von Miller will ask for when they franchise him? Gotta be 20-25 mil a year, no?

Von Miller contract: Von Miller contract talks stall; Broncos will use franchise tag, ESPN reports - Mile High Report

The Brock situation will also be interesting. He is off his rookie contract now, and they cant franchise him and Miller. I bet San Fran would offer him a boat load. Rams, Jets and Texans too.
I wouldn't really have expected teams to be ready to pay big for Brock, but maybe I'm wrong. I would think Denver will be able to get a contract hammered out, and it might be reasonable but I think he has the leverage to ensure it isn't super super team friendly shit like they did to Kaep.
 

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also, one has to remember that back the those days QB's werent treated as virgin princesses who can't be touched in any way
Seriously, people comparing pure stats are retarded when there have been so many rule changes to help offenses and protect QBs.
 

Lenardo

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didn't i say the 85 bears were #1 defense? they Were dominating for That era.

those SAME guys TODAY (time travel scenario) vs a very good offensive line and a very good QB-patriots last year, green bay a few years ago, etc(teams with great offensive lines and a great QB that excell at quick passes). that defense would get shredded via the quick strike pass/slant since the league has learned how to deal with that style of defense.

on to next year... Vegas currently has the patriots and steelers as the favorite to represent the AFC for the next superbowl (both at 8-1 odds) followed by the bengals and broncos at 14-1.

seattle(8-1) cardinals green bay and carolina (all 3 at 10-1 odds) for the NFC