[NO Spoilers] Star Wars: Episode 7 - NO PUSSY SHIT
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Actually Column I liked the movie a lot. I liked how in the theater they handed out a goddamn glossary, I thought that was awesome at the time. But years later when I read the book, I realized a HUGE chunk of the story was missing. All the vague references to Paul's powers don't even come close to showing his level of prescience.
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That is what makes this group diverse. If everyone had the same tastes, we would not be a diverse group, we would be a monotonous group with diverse tastes. I can only imagine all the excellent movies you think are bad, so attacking someone's taste is just as wrong here as it is anywhere, ever. Especially when preceded by a phrase that defends that taste.
It's not good compared to the novels which were amazing, but as an adaptation it was fun to watch and was somewhat close to how I envisioned many of the parts.
Since I'm a huge Frank Herbert fan and read all the Dune novels, then the movie was really lacking comparitively. You just can't capture everything going on. It irked me because I'm a purist, similar to how changing LOTR and The Hobbit <fuck you Jedi Legolas> irked me as I was a Tolkien freak when younger, but I still enjoyed the movies.
Sadly, I think Herbert has fallen out of style which is a shame. His books are still among the best and deepest I've ever read.
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I know I'm in the minority, but I hated Lynch's Dune. Admittedly, I hate almost everything Lynch does, so that's no surprise (notable exceptions being Mulholland Drive, Elephant Man, and the still really fucking weird Blue Velvet). But I saw it in the theaters after having already read the 3 main books, and I came out of the theater absolutely hating it, as did all of my friends.
Dune is actually one movie that I really, really want someone to remake. I'm not saying Peter Jackson is the man for it, but I'd take a 3-movie adaptation of just the first book in a heartbeat, or lacking that another LotR-type treatment for the 3 main books. As long as it wasn't turned into a JJ Abrams action-fest (I don't hate the guy, but it isn't what I want for Dune), it would have to be better than Lynch's abomination.
Dune is actually one movie that I really, really want someone to remake. I'm not saying Peter Jackson is the man for it, but I'd take a 3-movie adaptation of just the first book in a heartbeat, or lacking that another LotR-type treatment for the 3 main books. As long as it wasn't turned into a JJ Abrams action-fest (I don't hate the guy, but it isn't what I want for Dune), it would have to be better than Lynch's abomination.
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So yeah I know this is the Star Wars thread, but I can't keep out of the Dune conversation...
I loved Lynch's version when I was a kid, but I was born in 1980 and I never read the book until I was in High School. After reading the book it leave the movie quite lacking. The Extended Edition of Lynch's movie is better, but I still can't help but think everyone was thinking, "wow we have this new SFX how can was use it in this movie??"
Now fast forward to the SciFi mini-series. I really enjoyed that one, but as time passes I feel like they tried to keep too many parts of Lynch's version for familiarity for fans of the older movie. (plus there is a director's cut of the mini-series with nudity.)
Some day someone will remake Dune again. That is the trend of Hollywood. Will it be a true book to screen? Who knows, but I'll watch it.
STAR WARS AHEAD!
As for having the Trio as the focus for Ep. 7 it leaves me meh. Why not make the movie longer, and have a 20 minute prologue like LotR that can show what's happend since Jedi?
I loved Lynch's version when I was a kid, but I was born in 1980 and I never read the book until I was in High School. After reading the book it leave the movie quite lacking. The Extended Edition of Lynch's movie is better, but I still can't help but think everyone was thinking, "wow we have this new SFX how can was use it in this movie??"
Now fast forward to the SciFi mini-series. I really enjoyed that one, but as time passes I feel like they tried to keep too many parts of Lynch's version for familiarity for fans of the older movie. (plus there is a director's cut of the mini-series with nudity.)
Some day someone will remake Dune again. That is the trend of Hollywood. Will it be a true book to screen? Who knows, but I'll watch it.
STAR WARS AHEAD!
As for having the Trio as the focus for Ep. 7 it leaves me meh. Why not make the movie longer, and have a 20 minute prologue like LotR that can show what's happend since Jedi?
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Star Trek aside, I respect JJ Abrams enough still to hope he can pull it off, but I dunno, I kinda don't wanna see 55 year old Princess Leia. I love Carrie Fischer and her books and talk show appearances and stuff, but Leia just looks a certain way in my mind forever, and having her age 40 years suddenly and get fat on screen is gonna be jarring. Same to a lesser extent with Luke and Han. Anyways I just haveta hope Abrams can pull it off, but pretty bummed they aren't going the Thrawn route. A movie where Han, Luke, and Leia play with their kids and teach them the ways of the force while a new dorky villain rises to power is not something I really want to see, but I have no idea what would be something I want to see.
I really like Dune, all of it. the books, the Lynch movie, the TV movie, the sequel, the games, blah blah blah. It always made me feel dumb reading the books, like the characters are on a level far above me (Malazan is the only other one that feels that way). However, if we are being honest it hasn't aged that well. Completely ignoring the horrible, horrible vomit his son put out even the originals are pretty shaky when it comes to computers, how a galaxy wide trade system would work, the weird dealings with human extinction and ways to side step it, the crazy shit it got into with Judaism, Islam and Christianity, and many other things.
Things like The Culture, Hyperion or Commonwealth Saga/Void (Hamilton) are nice descendants of the ideas of Frank Herbert, but there really hasn't been a series that runs with his concepts and updates them to modern hard sci-fi, as far as I know. His other series that dealt with rogue AI and planetary bio terraforming was even crazier and super, super, super weird.
damn, the Dune REMAKE is now 14 years old... so crazy!
I really like Dune, all of it. the books, the Lynch movie, the TV movie, the sequel, the games, blah blah blah. It always made me feel dumb reading the books, like the characters are on a level far above me (Malazan is the only other one that feels that way). However, if we are being honest it hasn't aged that well. Completely ignoring the horrible, horrible vomit his son put out even the originals are pretty shaky when it comes to computers, how a galaxy wide trade system would work, the weird dealings with human extinction and ways to side step it, the crazy shit it got into with Judaism, Islam and Christianity, and many other things.
Things like The Culture, Hyperion or Commonwealth Saga/Void (Hamilton) are nice descendants of the ideas of Frank Herbert, but there really hasn't been a series that runs with his concepts and updates them to modern hard sci-fi, as far as I know. His other series that dealt with rogue AI and planetary bio terraforming was even crazier and super, super, super weird.
damn, the Dune REMAKE is now 14 years old... so crazy!
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What do you mean ? The Butlerian Jihad happened, it is normal that in that particular universe the things are a bit...anachronistic.
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Which the movie makes no mention of unless you watch the extended version. It's actually a pretty brilliant bit of plot - it prevents the "future" envisioned in a 1960s novel from being dated, because it is essentially a society of luddites that hit the reset button.
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Mark Hamill did an AMA today. Gave some pretty great answers. Seems like a really cool guy to hang out with.
Mark Hamill here. In an AMA far, far away... : IAmA
Also, I had no idea how many voices he has done over the years besides Joker.
Mark Hamill here. In an AMA far, far away... : IAmA
Also, I had no idea how many voices he has done over the years besides Joker.
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I agree, Pixar's stuff is top notch and Frozen was dang good.
The Clone Wars also were far, far better than the prequels.
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Many times this. I watched all the prequels and thought they were ok; and then I caught the Clone Wars cartoon short about Mace Windu fighting an ENITRE GODDAMN ARMY by himself. Then I went back and watched Attack of the Clones arena scene where all the Jedi look and act like wussy fools and decided that Patton Oswalt's time machine theory about going back and killing George Lucas was the perfect plan.
