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Haast

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And in other news:

"A study just completed by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency says North Korea may have nuclear weapons that could be delivered by ballistic missiles, a congressman said Thursday. The revelation came from Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colorado, during a House Armed Services Committee hearing."

http://us.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world/a...html?hpt=hp_t1

Frankly I am sceptical about this assertion given the timing and the fact that every previous assessment said they weren't able to do this, but in that case, if it isn't true, it was a reckless thing to say.
Well if that is true, that contradicts previous reports and invalidates my entire post. Sick burn!
 

Big Phoenix

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Over what? Lets be fucking serious here, North Korea represents exactly zero fucking threat to us. Zero. Less than Sadam Hussein posed.

Last I checked, people who just "attacked" other countries didn't end up doing so well under the scope of history. You know, Hitler just decided he'd had enough of this little Belgium thing. That's the route you want to go down?

I would fucking hope that we've learned a few things over the course of history and there's enough people of sound mind to know you don't just up and attack other countries for no good fucking reason. And there's pretty much no good fucking reason to do it right now. Launch one of your little pissant missiles at us and we can talk, but until then, there's literally no reason to get mired in the Kim family's bullshit.
Is that a serious question?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheonan_sinking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Yeonpyeong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_%28AGER-2%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EC-121_shootdown_incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_House_Raid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident
 
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.....They have 10kt bombs guys. We are not talking about the fucking Tsar Bomba over here. Pyongyang is 3,000,000 people and the biggest weapon they have is little more than half of what we dropped on the Japanese. We are not talkingFallout 4 : Pyongyang Edition. Calm down.

Haast beat me to it.
Sounds like we better invade them now then before they really get the ability to nuke themselves.
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Big Phoenix

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What argument are we supposed to derive from those links? That NK represents a serious threat?
That this country is run by god damn cowards for not dealing with them in the past, especially once the USSR collapsed.

Of course Im going to assume you didnt even read any of those to know what they entailed.
 

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Well if that is true, that contradicts previous reports and invalidates my entire post. Sick burn!
I read an interview with some NK expert that said the current thinking is that their weapons from the start have been miniaturized implosion type warheads, with an eye to being able to make ICBM ready ones, and that's why they've been fizzling. Because just about any asshole with enough fissile material can make a gun-type fission weapon that won't fizzle, even if it's not super efficient.
 

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And in other news:

"A study just completed by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency says North Korea may have nuclear weapons that could be delivered by ballistic missiles, a congressman said Thursday. The revelation came from Rep. Doug Lamborn, R-Colorado, during a House Armed Services Committee hearing."

http://us.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world/a...html?hpt=hp_t1

Frankly I am sceptical about this assertion given the timing and the fact that every previous assessment said they weren't able to do this, but in that case, if it isn't true, it was a reckless thing to say.
Yeah I heard that today and was skeptical for the reason reasons, but then I thought that it makes sense we'd discover more about their weapons systems given how closely we're watching them now.
 

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I knew a low ranking army officer in Korea who said, after the Yeonpyung island shelling (which followed the Cheonan sinking that went entirely unpunished), the only thing that stopped an immediate large-scale retaliation was really bad fog that day. I took it as just Army fullofshit rumors, and still do, but that'd be interesting and not actually surprising if it was true.

I still can't believe NK got away with murdering 46 SK sailors.
 

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You think we have a right to obliterate another nation to protect ourselves when they pose quite literally zero danger to us?

Your stock with me is really riding off the rails into crazy land. Let me reiterate this - North Korea currently poses exactly zero fucking danger to America, the American way of life, or any Americans not stationed along a DMZ.

Allow me to remind you that this conversation started when I quoted a "Why haven't we attacked them yet?" question. We haven't attacked them yet because they're not a threat and we're not bloodthirsty warmongers. Nor should we be in the future just because of some bullshit like a trumped up map in a war room showing a missile path to Texas. The comparisons between the regime in NK and Iraq are entirely legitimate. These people have nothing and the only thing that makes you think they do is because THEY say they do. They said that shit about the Iraqi military too.
You keep saying "right" as if that applies in this situation. It really doesn't.

North Korea certainly poses a risk to our allies in the region and our troops in the region right now. Our homeland, not right now. But it is a matter of time. I don't think we should attack themright nowbut I do think that is an option. Think about the reality of this situation. They extort us and the rest of the international community with their nuclear and missile programs for aid which they then use to prop up their military which they then use to threaten us. It is ludicrous. The only reason everyone doesn't shit their pants every time this happens is because we all laugh at them and their country, because they can't actually do it. Yet. One day they will have the technology to follow through on their threats and a fuckload of people could die because we did nothing now. So I said I think we should deal with this now rather than kick the can down the road yet again. That doesn't mean militarily until it does. I mean for fucks sake, if ever there was a case for us to be world police I would think it would be unstable and irrational dictatorship/puppet government/whatever threatens global stability with nuclear weapons.
 

chaos

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I knew a low ranking army officer in Korea who said, after the Yeonpyung island shelling (which followed the Cheonan sinking that went entirely unpunished), the only thing that stopped an immediate large-scale retaliation was really bad fog that day. I took it as just Army fullofshit rumors, and still do, but that'd be interesting and not actually surprising if it was true.

I still can't believe NK got away with murdering 46 SK sailors.
Yeah, I don't know the specifics of what stopped our retaliation, but I was shocked that we didn't light their asses up for that.
 

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I think if they fire a missile across our or Japanese airspace we should take out a few military targets and tell them next time there is aggression from them it will be treated as a declaration of war .