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Neranja

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Nvidias bread and butter are commercial and industrial partners now, consumers not buying 5000 series isn't going to hurt their bottom line much.
Again, as I said earlier: "This is going to explode in their face when the hype cycle regarding AI will inevitably crash down to the trough of disillusionment."
 

Noodleface

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Doesn't matter how much hype you think AI is, look at the enterprise industry investing in it.

Dell = all in
Stargate, $500bn investment from all tech partners
AMD with AI CPUs whatever the fuck that means
 
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people that think AI is gonna crash are now the delusional ones. businesses are training models now on proprietary data. you're not seeing shit right now because any company worth a shit is not uploading their stuff into chatgpt/microsoft because of trade secrets and contracts. this isnt just so people can ask little dumb questions to a chat bot, this is so entire departments can be replaced. it is a reason "AI trainer" is a high rising career trend. it is a reason "AI agents" is going to be a hot SaaS market.
 

rhinohelix

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people that think AI is gonna crash are now the delusional ones. businesses are training models now on proprietary data. you're not seeing shit right now because any company worth a shit is not uploading their stuff into chatgpt/microsoft because of trade secrets and contracts. this isnt just so people can ask little dumb questions to a chat bot, this is so entire departments can be replaced. it is a reason "AI trainer" is a high rising career trend. it is a reason "AI agents" is going to be a hot SaaS market.
Tell me you have never worked with AI without tell me you have never worked with AI. No one is responsibly going to be replacing whole depts any time soon; given that AI can give false answers/lie etc. and the companies are going to be held liable for those answers. Go back and read the thread; It's my opinion, having lived through several of these now, AI will follow the same pattern as "Cloud": It won't ever live up to the big hype but will be developed behind the scenes and integrate into everyone's lives in a more subtle way than the Gartner IT Hype cycle would allow.
 

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It's definitely not going to replace whole departments because a) someone still has to ask the right questions and b) businesses will just do more stuff. every company can do more stuff if they have access to faster answers. And the more stuff your company does, the more humans you'll need to sort out all the bullshit that happens due to the velocity of stuff happening

But it's not going away either. Just about every SaaS platform is going to have AI bolted on the frontend and throughout.
 
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In my opinion, if you want to be the one keeping you're job you want to be the one involved/invested with coming up to speed and learning how AI work. The people that can't adopt will be left behind.

You may think it's a bubble, and I'm sure to an extent it is, but I can tell you as somewhat of an insider that it is huge. I've been there for a few huge things like cloud, this is definitely different.

And he's not wrong. We're training our models on our private source code, on our documentation, and on our communications. What that means for the overall workforce I can't say.
 
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Kiroy

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i think it's also an issue for those of us who build a new comp once every 10 bloody years and we're too lazy to upgrade. We want a beast that will last until it becomes so slow that it pisses us of and we build a new one. Maybe this is just me. The time is nearly at hand... still using a 20+ year old hard drive.

From what i've seen, the best GPU 7 years ago is still kinda competitive today, not with the high-end gpus, but probably passable enough for me not to yeet my computer out the window.

I’m going on 10 years with my 1080 and it’s a workhorse. Cyberpunk was the most taxxing thing i’ve put it through it while I wasn’t all maxxed it was fine. POE2 runs fine, and other than that I just play older stuff when I get time.
 
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Mist

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In my opinion, if you want to be the one keeping you're job you want to be the one involved/invested with coming up to speed and learning how AI work. The people that can't adopt will be left behind.

You may think it's a bubble, and I'm sure to an extent it is, but I can tell you as somewhat of an insider that it is huge. I've been there for a few huge things like cloud, this is definitely different.

And he's not wrong. We're training our models on our private source code, on our documentation, and on our communications. What that means for the overall workforce I can't say.
I'm not dismissing the tech, I just think the idea of it causing mass unemployment is unrealistic.

At first, a lot more stuff will be happening within tech, as tons of legacy systems finally get gutted, applications start talking to each other in new ways, companies need to clean up their internal knowledgebases and other stuff. More software will get written to utilize the new capabilities. Companies will need new observability tools and track everything their AI applications are doing.
 

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In my opinion, if you want to be the one keeping you're job you want to be the one involved/invested with coming up to speed and learning how AI work. The people that can't adopt will be left behind.

You may think it's a bubble, and I'm sure to an extent it is, but I can tell you as somewhat of an insider that it is huge. I've been there for a few huge things like cloud, this is definitely different.

And he's not wrong. We're training our models on our private source code, on our documentation, and on our communications. What that means for the overall workforce I can't say.

AI would have saied "your".

Best bet is to have a job that is 100% passed down and never written down or published on the internet, makes it very hard to train AI.
 

Noodleface

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AI would have saied "your".

Best bet is to have a job that is 100% passed down and never written down or published on the internet, makes it very hard to train AI.
Are you sure?

I just tested the classic AI is retarded test

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rhinohelix

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In my opinion, if you want to be the one keeping you're job you want to be the one involved/invested with coming up to speed and learning how AI work. The people that can't adopt will be left behind.

You may think it's a bubble, and I'm sure to an extent it is, but I can tell you as somewhat of an insider that it is huge. I've been there for a few huge things like cloud, this is definitely different.

And he's not wrong. We're training our models on our private source code, on our documentation, and on our communications. What that means for the overall workforce I can't say.
I was a datacenter manager for the Cloud hype cycle and work with developers making tools for my current job involving/incorporating AI where we can. I know what it can or can't do at this point. Now, my experience may be different and depending on the use case and training, etc. maybe it will speed up code creation etc. but many of things people think about in relation to AI are a long way down the curve.

It's not a bubble per se like crypto mining but what it can do vs. people imagine it can do are two entirely different things. I think Cloud is a perfect example: People had sky high paradigm breaking expectations for Cloud, there was this incredible rush to virtualization/cloud etc but took a decade plus for that potential to be realized, and not in the halcyon way it was originally foreseen.

AI is super powerful and will have long reaching effects but not in the ways that people imagine today.
 

Borzak

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How many people do you think are looking to downsize power supplies when they upgrade as opposed to keep using the one they already have? I'm sure effeciency is something but pretty sure a lot of people already have the power supply they will use.
 
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I’m going on 10 years with my 1080 and it’s a workhorse. Cyberpunk was the most taxxing thing i’ve put it through it while I wasn’t all maxxed it was fine. POE2 runs fine, and other than that I just play older stuff when I get time.
I've been half tempted to try replacing all thermal paste on my 970GTX to see how long I can keep it going.

I was also able to play Cyberpunk and I don't see any game in the near future that would need anything better, especially since (almost) every game that pushes graphics has been between mediocre and utter trash.