Overwatch

I couldn't get my usual gang interested in competitive last night. Played a bunch of quick plays, won most.

I finished my placement and got a 44. Won 4 6 losses total.

Will be interesting to see if the 'support gets lower rating' and the KOTH bugs are actually bugs or just some sort of psychological effect. The KOTH one definitely sounds plausible, but it could just be a coincidence that people are winning against teams that are expected to be stomps by the system, so you get a lot less rating.

This definitely happened in other blizzard games, anyone who played arena in WOW for example will remember this vividly. When we were pushing for glad it was game after game of 1-2 pt victories then any loss was a drop of 20 because the teams were so far apart in MMR that we were 'expected' to win so a loss to a team of this MMR caused a huge loss of ranking. If someone unfamiliar with the system noticed a few small increases on KOTH maps then maybe he just assumed it wasn't working properly, and it caught on. Or it could be bugged, who knows at this point. I've heard people also mention that winning/losing against people in their placements when you have finished yours has some sort of exaggerated effect too, but again who knows, its all just conjecture. Don't think Ill play much more ranked until the system settles down and blizzard confirms either way, work on getting my sensitivity lower (holy arm movements batman).

As an aside, I hope the system IS different from WOWs, because that felt like an awful awful grind because you would win these small victories consistently enough but all it took was one loss to undo about three hours of effort, was no fun at all.

Oddly enough no matter how much you people complain about your random teammates, your rank will only go up if YOU improve. It's not like the people in 60+ rank just "got lucky" and are staying up there because of it, they are just that much better. They're also dealing with the same bugs as everyone else, too.

If you can't deal with your rank being what it is and are shifting blame, ranked is 100% not for you. Ranked is about personal improvement and mastery. It's the same stupid complaining people get made fun of for in League for saying their teammates are the only reason they're stuck in bronze. Well, the only factor consistent in every game is you, so....

I have a bitcher on about half the teams I'm on.

I wonder if you could cheese the system by leaving king of the hill maps during the assembly phase and just playing on payload maps?

Fawe_sl said:

The KoTH bug is confirmed, not psychological. You'll never see massive gains or losses on KoTH until it's fixed.

From reading more about it, my understanding about what's happening is that KoTH maps are registering only 1 "game/round" rather than the 3-5 that it actually is.

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You got a link to where its confirmed? I can only find theyre investigating

Be next week before I hit 25 and can run ranked. So fucking busy lately. But a lot of you don't seem to accept that rank isn't something that should go up unless you are actually improving as a player. Even in a stack if you aren't improving your skull and teamwork you'll all end up exactly where you belong... like someone else said already, your not filling an xp bar. You won't rank up until you improve as a player.

Also Torb on offense can be highly effective on some maps. I've hit 4 golds playing it and got 8 votes. Is it always the right call? Fuck no, but did your team even try to work together in the first place? It requires teamwork to get your turrets in effective positions while attacking but it can be absolutely oppressive when done right.

Taloo_sl said:

and got 8 votes

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Nobody votes for dwarves!

Noodleface_sl said:

It's extremely frustrating to play for several hours and your rank doesn't move a single point (or even goes down, in my case).

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Honest question, not trying to patronize: Assuming you are placed relatively accurately to begin with, why would you expect to see your rank change/increase? My understanding is your rank is a reflection of your skill relative to all other players, this isn't something that is likely to vary much over a single play session.

Kharza-kzad_sl said:

Nobody votes for dwarves!

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Haha I usually don't either... Poor Reinhardt is the real hero when I've got a team that it can work with. But get that turret up near a capture point and UltING gives you a soldier 76 Ult and nearly as much hp as a Winston ult. Kind of hard to contest the cap at that point.

Very few torbs can do offense effectively.. I've seen maybe 1..