Overwatch

ToeMissile said:

Shouldn't be too hard to set up and record locally?

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I'd only get my perspective. That would make it impossible for me to decipher why my team wiped while I was Reaper keeping 2 players busy -- which is what I really need to understand. I'm clearly making incorrect decisions in my gameplay and I'm not sure what those incorrect decisions are due to a lack of information.

Keep an ear out for audio dropouts for me. I noticed more missing footsteps last night (this time a rein which should be really loud) and there were a couple ultimates that made no sound at all.

Tenks said:

I'd only get my perspective. That would make it impossible for me to decipher why my team wiped while I was Reaper keeping 2 players busy -- which is what I really need to understand. I'm clearly making incorrect decisions in my gameplay and I'm not sure what those incorrect decisions are due to a lack of information.

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I'm barely platinum and by no means an expert but I think a lot has to deal with positioning and "game sense." I play frequently with a friend and as long as he has some medal in damage, he thinks he's doing good. He carries a 2:1 kd ratio and I'm trying to explain to him that his ratio isn't that great. And even then it's the concept of team fights/engagements and not deathmatch. I watch a lot of competitive overwatch, I'd be happy to spectate your games and give my thoughts or just que with you if you're interested.

It makes me sad when a 2:1 is terrible, while I struggle with a 1:1. Just starting playing this today, so 6 hours in.

2:1 is pretty easy especially on some that just dink damage. Like Reaper is pretty easy to maintain. Since the game isn't strictly K : D it is basically K+A : D the ratios are a bit off. Also if you're on Reaper and not 2:1 (should really be breaching 3:1) you are failing your team because your job is DPS and if you're not getting kills you're not doing your job.

Tenks said:

I'd only get my perspective. That would make it impossible for me to decipher why my team wiped while I was Reaper keeping 2 players busy -- which is what I really need to understand. I'm clearly making incorrect decisions in my gameplay and I'm not sure what those incorrect decisions are due to a lack of information.

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Your perspective can still say a lot, things like position, target priority, and decision making can all come into play from just your perspective alone. Hence keeping two players busy as a Reaper. Are you keep two crucial targets busy? Is their carry dismantling your team behind his team while you're off taking off relatively non-relative or low priority targets? One of the most frustrating things is people assume reaper is a flanker, when he more fits the role of ambushing than flanking. He can easily divert attention and reset position by shifting out; if not getting a kill on his way out.

Things that we might be missing would be something like, understanding who is the priority target. Who is delivering the most pressure, and what issues are hurting other teammates from doing anything. For instance last night, I had a KoTH game with my friends on Ana, Zen, and myself on McCree. I couldn't nec get off McCree because we needed something to deal w/ the Genji/Tracer for the healers, while we had a Genji of our own doing mediocre-ish. Since we we're the 3 stack we were to blame, though we knew the immediate issue.. the monkey was entirely too free. So Genji proceed to bitch at me saying i'm a shit dps, that I can't play dps, ect.. and told me to get off McCree. We're 0-2 by this point, so I sub off McCree and he gets off from his Genji to Reaper pick to get McCree. We end up bringing it back to 2-2 because every time that monkey jumped in, he was either slept/discorded/ or two tapped by me, because now I can consistently deal w/ the monkey while the McCree did whatever he did. We ended up losing it because the McCree thought it was a great idea to go Roadhog that couldn't hit a hook on either Genji or Tracer.. but you know its the three stacks fault. Shit like that would be hard to see from your perspective, but it also requires your teammates to communicate an issue that is prevalent for them; and adjust from there. But that doesn't seem to always happen, so at this point, our best solution is by gauging yourself and what you could do to better.

I didn't watch all of APAC, but i'm familiar with the strongest strategy basically being moving as one entity; reaper thrives in this kind of environment. He can turn brawls on it's head with proper target priority.

As far as ratios, as a dps main.. regardless of doing good or bad, its rare to be below 3:1. Not saying it hasn't happened, but very rare. If i'm carrying I can be anywhere from 3:1 to 6:1

unrelated but if interested, a 2 minute hold on hanamura on attack w/ hanjo

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The MSI tourney had a couple teams I'd not heard of going against dignitas and ninjas in pyjamas. It was ugly.



The casters seem kind of new to all this.

Ravishing said:

this game can be a wild ride, that's for sure lol.

I went like 3-30 over the course of 2.5 days, couldn't win anything, was playing mostly junkrat/mei/reaper. Went from 2500 to 2100.

Then got mad, spammed Soldier for a day and a half and back to 2650

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I think this is going to be my plan. I think anymore Soldier is my best "carry" simply because he doesn't really need a team supporting him as much as say a McCree. I think at higher SR that is when Mei becomes the best carry but I honestly don't want to practice her a whole ton because the nerf bat has to have her in it's sights.

Tenks said:

2:1 is pretty easy especially on some that just dink damage. Like Reaper is pretty easy to maintain.

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Riiiight, things make a little more sense now. So, 8 hours in, and my 76 play is terrible at 1.3, D.Va is better at 2.8, and Reaper is 3.3.

I was looking at my overall scores, and I've spent a fair amount of time on Mercy and Lucio as a fill.

As I fall, I entertain thoughts of what happened in the years of my ranking. Oooo the Meiji restoration! The declaration of Independence! In another day I'll ponder the battle of Sekigahara or however you spell that.

Tenks said:

I think this is going to be my plan. I think anymore Soldier is my best "carry" simply because he doesn't really need a team supporting him as much as say a McCree. I think at higher SR that is when Mei becomes the best carry but I honestly don't want to practice her a whole ton because the nerf bat has to have her in it's sights.

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I'm not doubting its possible, but I just don't get how 76 can carry you so well. Maybe it's easier a lower ranks? I just feel abysmal, and at the mercy of my helix cd. I watch the frustration of my target get 1/2 the damage I dealt back in healing orb. When i'm McCree, I just run around two tapping people, regardless of my position. Obviously some game sense is involved whether 2 died, and 4 are left, make stagger ect but I just can't do that same shit with 76. I can't simply run past the point and choke off supply, when McCree can 2 tap any 200hp target.

just bc