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Deruvian

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Some of the worst games I've been in are when you have gold and diamonds on a team - especially if the gold is doing something other than mercy.

Jesus, I'm in a diamond placement game on my alt account and there's a silver guy matched with a guy decayed from 4400. How fucking stupid.
 
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lost

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ya i just had a comp game in platinum where a 2 group had a gold 2200 rated and he refused to mercy said he was best on ana.. im thinking this is 2700 and ur 2200 as ana. he was always dpsing sniping people while im on moira having to dps to keep healing. took me forever to get a heal from the sob.

u know there are people that sell 3k+ rated accounts so possible someone bought one and plays it at lower rank but seems like a dumb thing to buy
 
skribble

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Yeah, games with such a wide division of skill largely seem to end up with who can deal with the better carry, usually genji just fucking murdering everyone

Also whats with gold people playing Ana all the time. 'I have a good idea lets play the hero with the lowest winrate for supports, and also requires the most mechanical skill, thats sure to get me out of gold!'
 
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I don't understand why the skill-based performance shit is only for diamond+ players. Platinum and below teams shouldn't be just as focused on winning? Or is this Blizzard admitting that platinum and below players are incapable of doing anything other than playing for themselves?
 
Kharzette

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Super annoying when they play the map intro music throughout an entire match. In the league games I mean.
 
Valderen

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I’ve enjoyed the OWL pre-season. I haven’t watched all the game but watch quite few. There seem to be a decent balance between all teams. Might be 1 or 2 stronger and 1 or 2 at the bottom but even then the gap doesn’t seem that big. It should be an interesting season I think.

A few observations,

Mercy and Zen are pretty in all games as healing duo, there was few Lucio, Ana and Moira but the vast majority was Mercy and Zen. Unless there is a balance patch it’s unlikely to change.

D'va and Winston are pretty much the dominant tanks, there was some Orissa, very little of Roadhog, Arya and Reinhardt. Again unless there is a balance patch it’s unlikely to change.

As for DPS, it was dominated by Tracer is pretty much every match with Junkrat, Genji and Widowmaker taking the other spot. A few maps saw the Pharmercy combo, which brought either a McCree or Soldier 76 but was pretty situational. Saw a few Bastion, Torbjorn, Mei and Hanzo...Hanzo was on a weird double sniper team on Junkertown otherwise he was absent, no Doomfist.

I’d say that 90% of the team were Mercy, Zen, D’va, Winston, Tracer...with either Junkrat, Widowmaker or Genji completing it. That’s pretty much on all map type, defense or offense.

I doubt Overwatch League will attract any attention outside of the Overwatch community. It’s fun to watch if you’re familiar with the game but even with the nice change to the client, and colored UI, it’s still confusing for peo0le not familiar with the game.

As for the Overwatch community, i think the utter lack of comp diversity will hurt the game in the long run as it gets very repetitive to watch the same comp all the time. It’s fun to see individual skill of the players but as overall game experience it’s too much of the same I think.

The most exciting moment was Surefour pulling out a Bastion, or Rascal I think on Mei giving us something different and genuinely exciting.
 
Deruvian

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Noticed pretty similar things. It's a funny meta because these teams rely on super super strong tracers, which is totally unreasonable until mid at least master SR.
 
SorrowsEnd

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My friends and I added our own match making feature.

During character select we just check out the account levels. Any accounts under level 50 in our game? Leave game. They are always a smurf account with some grandmaster Tracer/Genji/Widow who's going to shit on the team all game.

Those accounts should be banned flat out.
 
Araxen

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Valderen said:
I’ve enjoyed the OWL pre-season. I haven’t watched all the game but watch quite few. There seem to be a decent balance between all teams. Might be 1 or 2 stronger and 1 or 2 at the bottom but even then the gap doesn’t seem that big. It should be an interesting season I think.

A few observations,

Mercy and Zen are pretty in all games as healing duo, there was few Lucio, Ana and Moira but the vast majority was Mercy and Zen. Unless there is a balance patch it’s unlikely to change.

D'va and Winston are pretty much the dominant tanks, there was some Orissa, very little of Roadhog, Arya and Reinhardt. Again unless there is a balance patch it’s unlikely to change.

As for DPS, it was dominated by Tracer is pretty much every match with Junkrat, Genji and Widowmaker taking the other spot. A few maps saw the Pharmercy combo, which brought either a McCree or Soldier 76 but was pretty situational. Saw a few Bastion, Torbjorn, Mei and Hanzo...Hanzo was on a weird double sniper team on Junkertown otherwise he was absent, no Doomfist.

I’d say that 90% of the team were Mercy, Zen, D’va, Winston, Tracer...with either Junkrat, Widowmaker or Genji completing it. That’s pretty much on all map type, defense or offense.

I doubt Overwatch League will attract any attention outside of the Overwatch community. It’s fun to watch if you’re familiar with the game but even with the nice change to the client, and colored UI, it’s still confusing for peo0le not familiar with the game.

As for the Overwatch community, i think the utter lack of comp diversity will hurt the game in the long run as it gets very repetitive to watch the same comp all the time. It’s fun to see individual skill of the players but as overall game experience it’s too much of the same I think.

The most exciting moment was Surefour pulling out a Bastion, or Rascal I think on Mei giving us something different and genuinely exciting.
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I do wonder how OWL is going to grow since the best talent is already signed and any new teams introduced in Season 2 are going to be at a severe disadvantage. There aren't too many players under the age limit waiting to turn 18 so they can sign on to OWL. Those that are waiting will be signed as soon as they turn 18 before Season 2.

I do not believe Overwatch as a game is attracting that many new players. I feel the game is stagnate in it's growth, but I'm could be 100% wrong.

As for Mercy, she's still low-key OP. Res will always be far too strong of an ability, and her Ultimate does way too many things and lasts way too long. They really need to delete rez and give her something else.

Blizzard needs to get to a point where any combination of the supports is viable. There is no reason they shouldn't be able to do that either. I just worry if they touch Zen they'll ruin him. I feel he's the most balanced support out of all of them.
 
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Adebisi

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Soooo ... you're not allowed to play what you want anymore?

This is weird
 
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Needless

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The best part is the dudes that whine about another persons pick wont change themselves
 
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Valderen

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It's not his first ban, think it's like 3rd or something in the last month or so.

He seems to take it pretty well.

They do need to stop their automated ban from doing it during a game though. Sucks for the rest of the team.

On a different note, got in a game with a group of 4, who promptly all select DPS. I'm on Moira, and other solo guy is on Roadhog. 2 of the guys on the group of 4 start telling me and the tank that we need to switch to Mercy and Rein/Orissa.

When the tank politely says that maybe they should play a 2nd tank and 2nd healer instead of 4 DPS, they start becoming toxic. Game starts we're getting destroyed and about 1-2 minutes in...all 4 leave.

Fun times in OW.
 
Valderen

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How do you make it that high if youre a bad one trick though..?
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He's a good player.

One trick game the SR system. They get more SR for wins, and lose less for a loss, in a fairly substantial way I hear at that ranking. So they don't have to maintain an extremely high win rate to get that high.

That will change with the performance based SR being removed in season 8. So some of those one trick might fall a rank or two.
 
lost

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So you're saying once they made it to that rating its hard to lose it due to the win/loss amounts of SR (which seems like a lot of effort if youre always a damn torb - to get there)

or you're saying that one tricks somehow get a bonus in SR that allows them to get that high (3500+) and then its also hard to lose cause of the win/loss ratio of points?

Ya I heard they're redoing the match making and I should be around more people my skill.
 
Valderen

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I'll try to explain as best as I understand it.

Part of the SR you gain or lose is calculated based on your performance vs the average for that hero at your ranking. If you outperform the average, you gain more SR for a win, and lose less if you lose. If you underperform you gain SR for a win, and lose more if you lose.

One trick tend to be very good at their hero of choice, and will generally outperform the average for that hero. That is especially true for off meta heroes that are rarely played. So they get big bonus for winning, and lose very little for a loss.

So while a regular player probably gets around 20-25SR for win, and lose 20-25SR for a loss. One trick might get 30-40SR for a win, and lose only 10-15SR when they lose.

There's even a few case where they gain SR even for a loss.

For all intent and purpose a good one trick Torbjorn playing for 50% win rate will actually gain SR, and climb.

They are removing that in Season 8 for Diamond and above(don't understand why), only win-loss will decide your SR. The hope is that people will care more about winning, since personal performance won't affect your SR. People seem very excited about the idea.
 
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