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Whidon
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Mercy nerf is rough for me as i don't delude myself into thinking i'm anything but one of those so called "one trick" and my SR would not be reflected accurately playing other heroes. I think i'll def go back to trying Moiria ore now but the consensus among the players i play competitive with is they seem to want me to stick with Mercy.
On one hand i feel like Valk was not that broken. There were plenty of ways to counter it i've had enemy soldiers wait and use visor every time ect.. Hell i've even had Junkrat nail me with a mine while flying at full speed in the air or teams "camping the corpse i obviously going to fly into rez.
OTOH it was a true "Game Changer" ability that won my team many a match we would have otherwise lost. Compare that to say Moiria's Ult or the Ults of other supports and i feel it;s now more fairly balanced with these strong but not often "I win" buttons.
On one hand i feel like Valk was not that broken. There were plenty of ways to counter it i've had enemy soldiers wait and use visor every time ect.. Hell i've even had Junkrat nail me with a mine while flying at full speed in the air or teams "camping the corpse i obviously going to fly into rez.
OTOH it was a true "Game Changer" ability that won my team many a match we would have otherwise lost. Compare that to say Moiria's Ult or the Ults of other supports and i feel it;s now more fairly balanced with these strong but not often "I win" buttons.
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Mercy is still good, and amazingly when you're ulting around and freeze in the air to res people you dont die, watched it two comp games tonight im like RES RES and she gets it off then flies off. Fuckin pugs shoot that hoe in the head! I'll still save my deadeye or visor for an ulting mercy cause she still has good hp regen during ult and aoe heal/dmg boost. Moira ult is cool and gets a lot of kills, most people dont line up for the heals when I'm killing people (and vice versa) but I wish I had something like lucio or zen ult instead.
Valderen
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So many Mercy main want that back, the official forums are full of request for Mercy 1.0
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yeah lot of post about mercys throwing in games, havent seen this yet but lot of people saying it. bunch of children. like how easy did you have to have it that you now have to act like the world is over..
Valderen
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A small sample for sure but played about 10 games tonight. Less Mercy for sure but still played.
The rez meta is gone though, and the games definitly had a slightly different feel to them. I think it will continue to change a bit as people adapt to the no rez meta. The biggest thing is that how engagement starts matter much more as mistake or early picks are not erased anymore.
As I said, small sample but had 2CP where point B didn’t stall as much, since at no point was Mercy able to Valkyrie back in and rez 2 to help her team regain momentum on defense.
Curious to see how it will play out in the long term. Games felt a bit more fun.
The rez meta is gone though, and the games definitly had a slightly different feel to them. I think it will continue to change a bit as people adapt to the no rez meta. The biggest thing is that how engagement starts matter much more as mistake or early picks are not erased anymore.
As I said, small sample but had 2CP where point B didn’t stall as much, since at no point was Mercy able to Valkyrie back in and rez 2 to help her team regain momentum on defense.
Curious to see how it will play out in the long term. Games felt a bit more fun.
Needless
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are mercy mains the SJWs of OW?
You don't see any alpha mccree mains going on the official forums crying they want their mccree 1.0 with no damage falloff, or swole hanzo players crying that they want their original arrow hitbox that domes you even though it hits you in the stomach. SMH mercy mains, SMH.
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Yeah I feel like the difference is mercy doesnt take any sort of aiming and maybe new players came into how she was and now they feel shes gutted cause they didnt have her prior.
I cant believe how many threads there still are about mercy and people asking what to do now, or claim they're not throwing and people say they are as if shes a terrible healer or something..someone said shes got the worst ult now next to orisa lol!
I cant believe how many threads there still are about mercy and people asking what to do now, or claim they're not throwing and people say they are as if shes a terrible healer or something..someone said shes got the worst ult now next to orisa lol!
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skribble
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I'd imagine she's still strong at most ranks due to her overall throughput and how powerful healing is in the game at the minute, and she can still undo 'picks' which is incredibly valuable.
Loses a lot of value at higher/pro play because people can actually hit targets and burst down quickly.
I mean orissa ulti with the option to aoe heal instead is still pretty fucking good right?
Loses a lot of value at higher/pro play because people can actually hit targets and burst down quickly.
I mean orissa ulti with the option to aoe heal instead is still pretty fucking good right?
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yep. just lost a game cause the whole time everyones crying about the widow on the other team being too good. she had 60% scoped accuracy in GOLD rank at the end, and 70% win ratio but 30% other heroes. What is the first thing youd do against a widow... get a shield tank? nope not one tank went shield, so I dropped our second healer and went orisa, we improved immensely.
I told our DVA to sit on her, half the time the widow is just picking at us uncontested cause our DVA is fighting someone else. Lost first round, went moira again second round and again had no shield tank. So back to orisa, back to dva not going after the widow, we even had a winston but she was a good grappler.
Makes no sense, last season she had 82% win ratio on widow but only reached 2584 SR high.
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only shows her stats from 3 months ago tho but in game yeah 82% win. I've never seen so many people freak out but do nothing but get shot and not counter.
/endrant
I told our DVA to sit on her, half the time the widow is just picking at us uncontested cause our DVA is fighting someone else. Lost first round, went moira again second round and again had no shield tank. So back to orisa, back to dva not going after the widow, we even had a winston but she was a good grappler.
Makes no sense, last season she had 82% win ratio on widow but only reached 2584 SR high.
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only shows her stats from 3 months ago tho but in game yeah 82% win. I've never seen so many people freak out but do nothing but get shot and not counter.
/endrant
Teams not playing/pushing aggresively is now my most hated thing in this game. We were attacking on numbani, I’m on DVA and trying to get people to push on to the point with me. I make the call I’m diving in, I take out the genii, torb turret, and orisa on my own. We’re up three picks and my team literally wouldn’t move in because they were too busy chasing the other three enemies around the perimeter. Reapawns come back and hold the point. This happened five more times until we eventually lost. Fuck.
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gauze
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I think you gotta think of it less in terms of League's queuing system and hard evident that you're defined.. and more along the lines of loosely but somewhat even of distribution of players. If you queue as tank, it doesn't require you to play tank but you'll go into a game as a tank. From their standpoint it would be like you Queue, Tank/Rein Tank/Rein Tank/Zarya Tank/Hanzo and its like okay 1 anomaly, but you can see out those who do Tank/Hanzo Tank/Soldier Tank/Mercy Tank/Tracer.
It's not nec a one trick fix, but it'll atleast be a somewhat preventive measure to get a solidified game. I can't say I have had many games, but i've been in the game w/ 4 support one trick mains, a game that is all dps mains, and a game w/ 5 tank mains. It's rare but i'd imagine it does happen. You can also use that to document a players choice by saying he is going to do one thing, but is he consistently doing the other thing? It's a kinda passive approach w/o laying the iron law.
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yep I feel u. u do the work turn around and they're chasing butterflies. Its a good tactic if youre the other team and can distract 2 people while the teams fight. People have to learn to realize when theyre being distracted/baited/wasting time/needed elsewhere. tunnel vision is bad