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zzeris

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I thought those videos were pretty good especially the ones Fedor shared. I especially liked the music and the feel of first person in a couple of them. It would be really nice to see Brad give us a real first person MMO once again. The other perspectives really reduce the immersion significantly.
 

Quineloe

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How does third person work with Oculus Rift anyways?
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Draegan_sl

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Engine demos really don't matter at all because there is no network code being shown in them. It's all done on a single PC. Engines typically don't matter at all, it's what you do with them.

I wish them good luck. I look forward to seeing someone do something different.
 

Tauro

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The calm before the storm.....

So, how about a little betting fun, 2 questions, short answers please:

1.) How much money will Brad ask for, and how much will he get at the end of the kickstarter?

2.) Who will cry/hate the most on this board after the reveal happened?


My personal answers:
1.) 1 mil / 2.5 mil
2.) cry: tad10 / hate: ut
 

shabushabu

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Been reading up on Unity and I don't think its limited to Isometric as an "engine"... can anyone confirm this ? I suppose the real question i am asking is, will this MMO be Isometric ?
 

Mughal

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I don't see a serious coder in that group -_- I thought they had at least one.
Because they are an unfunded vaporware project with no traction. Right now they are doing the stuff that is cheap to get buzz, like art etc.

I'd love to see more smaller specialized MMOs but I don't think this is going to happen.
 

Mughal

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And the bullshit opinions begin.

What facts, if any, was this wet fart of a post based on?
My limited understanding of the MMO market. Also I would recommend you go back to bed and get up on the right side of it and stop being rude to others for no reasons other than you disagree with them.
 

Quaid

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My limited understanding of the MMO market. Also I would recommend you go back to bed and get up on the right side of it and stop being rude to others for no reasons other than you disagree with them.
No, it's not because I disagree with you. It's because you made a troll post based on nothing but wild conjecture. Provide some kind of evidence or stfu and go back to posting on reddit.
 

Convo

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There are going to be a lot of people who write this off.. Probably even more so from guys working in the industry like Mughal. It is what is.. It's up to Brad to prove people wrong all the way to the finish line. I obviously hope the naysayers are wrong. As pro this project I am, Brad earned his caution flag(race car pun for Brad)
 

rhinohelix

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No, it's not because I disagree with you. It's because you made a troll post based on nothing but wild conjecture. Provide some kind of evidence or stfu and go back to posting on reddit.
Dude.
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I didn't know it was trolling to say that economics and the market didn't really favor smaller niche MMOs, which is really what Mughal was saying, in his opinion. I would agree, insomuch as lots of folks are going out of their way to avoid the MMO label entirely due to the baggage that brings. MMOs won't spark same way the indy game scene has lit up as it requires so much in the way of assets and infrastructure. There just doesn't seem to be anything smaller than Star Citizen even aiming for that market, and they are one of the ones I mentioned trying to really play down the MMO aspect. Hopefully a more mid-market approach will take off, without over-relying on a Zynga-style FTP approach.
 

popsicledeath

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What Muggle said wasn't wrong, just stupid to say. It's like saying "I bet that restaurant doesn't last" each time you pass a "Now Open" sign in a new restaurants window. Oh, your friend is getting married? My opinion is it's 50-50 whether they make it!

Why, thank you for your amazing contribution to the conversation. Now that you've tried to sound smart, please take a minute to say something that actually supports your efforts.
 

Lunis

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I would actually be very surprised if it doesn't get funded and is indeed vaporware. Everyone knew what state Vanguard was in when it launched and yet it still sold ~200,000 box copies; the allure of a current gen "hardcore" PvE mmo was enough to get people to buy. And my suspicion is that there is still a large enough niche audience (~300k) to at least fund a kickstarter. All you need is 10% of your potential audience to back you, Camelot Unchained had around 15k backers which was enough for the 2 million Mark Jacobs was asking for.

I know I will definitely pay whatever the price is to get Alpha access.
 

Tmac

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Dude.

I didn't know it was trolling to say that economics and the market didn't really favor smaller niche MMOs, which is really what Mughal was saying, in his opinion.
Quaid's just trying to get his feet firmly planted beside the fanboi standard pre-launch, so Brad knows who to go for a foot rub.

Jimmies clearly russled.
 

Big Flex

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Convo

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I would actually be very surprised if it doesn't get funded and is indeed vaporware. Everyone knew what state Vanguard was in when it launched and yet it still sold ~200,000 box copies; the allure of a current gen "hardcore" PvE mmo was enough to get people to buy. And my suspicion is that there is still a large enough niche audience (~300k) to at least fund a kickstarter. All you need is 10% of your potential audience to back you, Camelot Unchained had around 15k backers which was enough for the 2 million Mark Jacobs was asking for.
That's been my thought too. I know a lot of people(myself included) hate that SoE never went out and made a spiritual successor to EQ. It makes a lot of sense for them not to since all those people are still playing EQ, EQ2 and even VG. There is no telling what a game like this could draw. Very early speculation but it could even put a nail in the coffin of some of those older games.
 

tad10

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Because they are an unfunded vaporware project with no traction. Right now they are doing the stuff that is cheap to get buzz, like art etc.

I'd love to see more smaller specialized MMOs but I don't think this is going to happen.
There was never much hope, just a fool's hope.
 

Quaid

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Quaid's just trying to get his feet firmly planted beside the fanboi standard pre-launch, so Brad knows who to go for a foot rub.

Jimmies clearly russled.
Nah man, I just call it as I see it. Hell, I'm already disappointed by the 'god-king' concept art.

The guy just called a basically unannounced game 'vaporware' with no evidence whatsoever. His assertion that the project has no professional coder is based on nothing but gogojira's attempt to confirm NewCo's team through clues on twitter and linkedin.

I have to listen to people's bullshit opinions that they spew without any evidence day-in day-out and ignore it IRL for the sake of keeping the peace. You can be fucking sure I'm gonna call it out when someone does it here.