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Arctic_Slicer_sl

shitlord
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been in and out of the country, need a summary of the previous week of drama, post haste.
According to the people of the kickstarter comments I'm a troll that just wants to dis the game and sabotage the kickstarter. The website is preparing it's store and is currently saying the raised $425,000 with no reference to the kickstarter and the Champion level membership is now named Apprentice Developer. They annouced the summoner class, posted some new screen shots and once again insisted that they have not abandoned the kickstarter despite posting update #49 where they say "From the official game site you'll be able to pledge, much like you have been on Kickstarter, but with less percentage taken off due to fees deducted by Amazon and Kickstarter. So this means more of your money goes directly into the development of the game."
 

popsicledeath

Potato del Grande
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Popsicle , they will have to duck your comment on the official KS forum, no real way to explain it , although I am looking forward to seeing someone try and spin it.
Some of the more vocal, deep-pockets supports are claiming to be leaving the KS site. They're abandoning it! I'm worried they have insider information that the devs may have abandon it too. Only today several devs were posting there, though, so I'm very confused. :/
 

tad10

Elisha Dushku
5,533
595
As usual, Brad isn't running things right:

He could have sold the forum if he did it properly - something like the following:


1. State what he's doing: "Hi guys, we're opening a pay-to-play forum."

2. State why he's doing it: "Because we didn't make/aren't gonna make our kickstarter goals."

3. State why he's doing it - really: "Because frankly we realize now we were not prepared for kickstarter."

4. State the Long Term Goal of the PtP Forum: "We're going to use the money from the PtP Forum to fund 3 or 4 of us who still don't have jobs to continue working on Pantheon to develop an Alpha build. Once we have an Alpha build we're gong to go back to kickstarter and this time do it right."

5. Explain why the LTG is realistic: "We had 3,000 backers. If we generate $10,000 a month in fees - that's an average of $3.33 per person per month - we can pay for 3 to 4 cheapass, out of work and near broke developers to keep developing. 2,000-3,000 a month per person isn't much but it beats unemployment."

6. Do the Math Tier thing properly: "We know we can't get 3.33 a month from all 3,000 or even 1,000 so we're going to offer three tiers: $1 a month for access to read/post and Hero title, $5.00 a month for Read/Post and Champion title and $15.00 a month for Read/Post and Grim Champion title. Grim Champions will have earliest access to our proto-alpha when available and access to a a Unique Class/Race combo the Elf Dark Knight or the Ogre Wizard (or whatever) in Live that will not be made accessible any other way."

7. Explain what happens if they don't get 10,000 a month: "If we only get $2,000-$3,000 a month we'll go down to just two full time developers, not including myself, and the other chaps will help out on weekends when they can. We still think we'll get it done and additionally we'll sell T-shirts, coffee cups, mouse pads of our cooler art. We figure that we can get to an alpha state worthy of kickstarter in two years."

If I had seen something like that, I would have tossed in $1.00 or maybe even $5.00 a month - that's less than I spend on coffee in any given day.
 

Habakkuk_sl

shitlord
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"popsicledeath
5 minutes ago
Canadina seems to think only the concerns of people she likes and agrees with are valid. Imo, that's no way for an apprentice developer to behave.

If the apprentice developers of Pantheon treat people like that, how are the full developers treating them?"

Haha...you crack me up man that is awesome.
 

Vandyn

Blackwing Lair Raider
3,656
1,382
We are the Champions, my friends. And we'll keep on ragging this turd of an effort till the end.
 

popsicledeath

Potato del Grande
7,547
11,831
As usual, Brad isn't running things right:

He could have sold the forum if he did it properly - something like the following:


1. State what he's doing: "Hi guys, we're opening a pay-to-play forum."

2. State why he's doing it: "Because we didn't make/aren't gonna make our kickstarter goals."

3. State why he's doing it - really: "Because frankly we realize now we were not prepared for kickstarter."

4. State the Long Term Goal of the PtP Forum: "We're going to use the money from the PtP Forum to fund 3 or 4 of us who still don't have jobs to continue working on Pantheon to develop an Alpha build. Once we have an Alpha build we're gong to go back to kickstarter and this time do it right."

5. Explain why the LTG is realistic: "We had 3,000 backers. If we generate $10,000 a month in fees - that's an average of $3.33 per person per month - we can pay for 3 to 4 cheapass, out of work and near broke developers to keep developing. 2,000-3,000 a month per person isn't much but it beats unemployment."

6. Do the Math Tier thing properly: "We know we can't get 3.33 a month from all 3,000 or even 1,000 so we're going to offer three tiers: $1 a month for access to read/post and Hero title, $5.00 a month for Read/Post and Champion title and $15.00 a month for Read/Post and Grim Champion title. Grim Champions will have earliest access to our proto-alpha when available and access to a a Unique Class/Race combo the Elf Dark Knight or the Ogre Wizard (or whatever) in Live that will not be made accessible any other way."

7. Explain what happens if they don't get 10,000 a month: "If we only get $2,000-$3,000 a month we'll go down to just two full time developers, not including myself, and the other chaps will help out on weekends when they can. We still think we'll get it done and additionally we'll sell T-shirts, coffee cups, mouse pads of our cooler art. We figure that we can get to an alpha state worthy of kickstarter in two years."

If I had seen something like that, I would have tossed in $1.00 or maybe even $5.00 a month - that's less than I spend on coffee in any given day.
Brad is still too busy trying to get the word out to explain anything.
 

gogojira_sl

shitlord
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3
Those four or five people posting thousands of comments on the Kickstarter are a rotten bunch. There's plenty of self-inflicted issues with the Kickstarter but nobody would want to be associated with that small and nasty group.
 

Araxen

Golden Baronet of the Realm
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7,842
Canceled my $45 just in case $400,000 appears out of thin air and it gets "backed".
 

Dahkoht_sl

shitlord
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0
Someone send Brad a congrats for already getting over 400k in funds , surprises me , I didn't think he would get that much on his private website , but he's got it on his front page that he's raised that much already so it must be so.
 

Soygen

The Dirty Dozen For the Price of One
<Nazi Janitors>
28,433
44,761
Someone send Brad a congrats for already getting over 400k in funds , surprises me , I didn't think he would get that much on his private website , but he's got it on his front page that he's raised that much already so it must be so.
Dude, read the KS comments. It's just a placeholder! After the KS ends, it will be less deceptive...err I mean corrected.