Pan'Theon: Rise' of th'e Fal'Len - #1 Thread in MMO

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Dahkoht_sl

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Graye_sl said:
My worry is more.:

Guild: "Hey guys Raid mob X isn't up"
XserverScout: "It is up over here"
Guild: "Keeeel"

So now you introduce a whole new ball of wax. (Supposing they do follow through with open raid targets)
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This. Or the other 100 ways it could be somewhat "exploited".

Quaid's idea of it being extremely limited to friends list makes my pure X server hatred cool a little , but there's issues like this , like bringing high end loot back and forth to trade and sell and so on.

Yes you could then make things not tradeable when you are X-server'd and so on , but it goes down the road of they have to come up with more and more rails to make sure it doesn't cause issues in some way.

I think this small of a dev team , even if money bags drop from the sky , shouldn't be considering any sort of system that makes the world seem less "world like". They have far more important things to get right and in even 3 years down the road.

I also want them to severely limit the number of servers and stick to it. Make sure they aren't moronic and not have a queue system (idiots at SE with FFXIV ARR comes to mind) and I'm fine with waiting an hour in a queue at launch to get in. Make the servers somewhat packed and no X-server stuff is my preference.
 
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I think pretty much everyone that gave a shit about Brad making an MMO old skool style has been contacted as that shit has been all around the net... I think we can agree unless some Sheikh from oil rich nation who has fond memories of wasting his time in EQ the Kickstarter is dead..

Since we are still talking about the game has a chance to be made where is Brad going to go for Loot? We kinda ruled SMED out some pages ago... I'm having a hard time figuring out where esp. with a fail KS.
 
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Tol_sl said:
the only thing I hated in practice was the whole "Welp, I had to work on the night we got some tier 3 flag, now I have to wait until we backflag to get in."
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Haha or how bout spending all night raiding, you get wasted, mob goes down and 70 people are jammed around the planer projection to get their flags, and in the chaos, the clerics miss your tells for a rez. Projection despawns, and you finally get rezzed. Happened to me about half a dozen times till they finally took him off that 5 minute timer and let him stay up for 15ish minutes.
 
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TragedyAnn_sl said:
Do we know how much time has passed between when the collision happened and when the heroes are resurrected? Because at first, I am fine with everyone starting in the same area because of the lore.
BUT if any significant amount of time has passed, I imagine different races would settle with their own, in their own area.
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Maybe it's still too dangerous. Maybe time has passed and there are places to settle, but they're filled with bad guys. Maybe as an expansion they can take a dangerous zone that adventurers have cleared and make a new starting village/cave/city out of it, or like EQN hypes we can all build the fucking thing for them using voxels.
 
Lunis

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I think i'll upgrade to the 250 if this thing gets funded.

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Dahkoht_sl

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I'm curious on the math side of things what the daily average has to look like with an end spike. CU funded I believe with a large last day or two spike and several other KS's did also.
 
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Wrong once again? What are you talking about? Whidon1 was the one who originally posted about the flagging deal in PoP, go to post #12978. Moron. Pay attention.

I was wrong about content that occurred over 10 years ago, and was mistaking how the content was changed by the time I took an alt through it, months later. Big fucking deal. Either way, point is that PoP flagging was a joke up until the elemental planes, even before they nerfed it. People on my server ran successful PICK UP raids on PoI and the other tier 1 shit. PoJ flagging via execution trial was easy with 1 group, so was the PoS quest with the giants if you charmed mobs.
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You posted twice incorrectly about flagging requirements. Once = Wrong, Twice = Wrong again. How would you know how easy or hard the trials were at the given time since you didn't do them at all? Its nothing to brag about being able to PuG Teir 1 PoP raids 2-3 expansions after they released. Hell, you had some necros able to solo Vallon Zek by the time you got around to the Planes.
 
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Dahkoht_sl

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Brad is the dead opposite of Barnett when it comes to videos , and both extreme ends of the spectrum are bad for pushing a game or KS.

Surely someone can pull off a middle ground between not sounding bored and like you'd rather be doing anything else vs screaming at the camera WAAAUGGGHH ORCS AND DWARVES SMASH the whole time.
 
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K13R_sl said:
I think pretty much everyone that gave a shit about Brad making an MMO old skool style has been contacted as that shit has been all around the net... I think we can agree unless some Sheikh from oil rich nation who has fond memories of wasting his time in EQ the Kickstarter is dead..

Since we are still talking about the game has a chance to be made where is Brad going to go for Loot? We kinda ruled SMED out some pages ago... I'm having a hard time figuring out where esp. with a fail KS.
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Given that 99.8% of us are in the 'fuck no we aren't donating' category, then there's still time to try and sell us on the merits of this project. There are millions of old EQ players. If they can get 10 bucks from 1% of them, they fund.

My guess right now is this will fail on the first go around, and then they'll redo it using what they were given by the community to create a better page to market.

Based on their team composition, it definitely will be a tough sell. I'm still baffled why they have 9 designers and 1 coder for this project. They need to RIF 7 of the designers today and start the team with 3 coders/engineers, 2 designers, and 2 artists max.
 
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I'm guessing they only need coders, engineers, and artists if and when the project gets funded.
 
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tad10_sl said:
They could have used a couple last year to get out the pre-alpha footage for the KS...
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Ya but like... The world keeps spinning man. Who the heck is gonna do grunt work for free? Who knows what these guys real lives are like? They probably have day jobs that demand their attention to pay bills, wives that need you to mow the lawn and fuck them now and then, kids that have to go to soccer and parent-teacher meetings.

Saying 'oh ya ill do some coding on a hypothetical game that is maybe getting made... Oh ya sure ill do it for free, too' is a pretty big stretch.
 
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Tide27_sl said:
You posted twice incorrectly about flagging requirements. Once = Wrong, Twice = Wrong again. How would you know how easy or hard the trials were at the given time since you didn't do them at all? Its nothing to brag about being able to PuG Teir 1 PoP raids 2-3 expansions after they released. Hell, you had some necros able to solo Vallon Zek by the time you got around to the Planes.
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Reading comprehension failure ser. Jesus man, I never said I started raiding in PoP (acutally just a few weeks before kunark launched), the other guy said that. Quit being an idiot and go reread the subsequent posts after #12978 and 12982.

I took my main all the way up through killing Feniin Ro (never got all my ele flags or to PoT) and completing all the flagging required pre-nerf DURING PoP expansion. I was mis-remembering because by the time I leveled up an alt through that content it had been changed and I had forgotten it had been changed. Also, my server was doing pug raids on tier one content, during PoP expansion. Cmon bud, either read more thoroughly or troll better.
 
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Quaid_sl said:
I'm guessing they only need coders, engineers, and artists if and when the project gets funded.
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I think if they had presented more concept art, including racial art, some armor sets, a few "monster" types, and some environmental stuff, that they would be doing much better. People want to look at images, and ohh and ahh over them. The first thing the hype train known as Wildstar did, was release a few environmental shots; showed the basic direction of the art, and people were all over it. I know there is at least one artist on the team, but what's he been doing since September, sharpening his box of 64 crayons?
 
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Quaid_sl said:
Ya but like... The world keeps spinning man. Who the heck is gonna do grunt work for free? Who knows what these guys real lives are like? They probably have day jobs that demand their attention to pay bills, wives that need you to mow the lawn and fuck them now and then, kids that have to go to soccer and parent-teacher meetings.

Saying 'oh ya ill do some coding on a hypothetical game that is maybe getting made... Oh ya sure ill do it for free, too' is a pretty big stretch.
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Well unemployment Insurance could have covered them for a few months while they worked on the game and looked for another job. But yeah, I get your point.
 
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Quaid_sl said:
I'm guessing they only need coders, engineers, and artists if and when the project gets funded.
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The big issue with Brad is trust. This would be another successful nostalgic KS lovefest if Brad didn't already horribly fuck over hundreds of thousands of his fans while the others were watching. To overcome this objection, IMO, something tangible is required. He needed engineers and artists on the job day one.

To come to us with so little and no plan other than "get funding somehow" after everything is Ricky Gervais comedy. I feel like I'm watching a KS by a combination of David Brent and Andy Millman.

Oh, I know. He is going to get business guys and a plan when he's funded right? Cross that bridge when they get there?

Saying 'oh ya ill do some coding on a hypothetical game that is maybe getting made... Oh ya sure ill do it for free, too' is a pretty big stretch.
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This is what I expect. This is what most other dev teams are having to do to get indie games made. That Brad was unable to assemble a full team is not an excuse. I see no sacrifice here at all.
 
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Gecko_sl said:
Given that 99.8% of us are in the 'fuck no we aren't donating' category, then there's still time to try and sell us on the merits of this project. There are millions of old EQ players. If they can get 10 bucks from 1% of them, they fund.

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Your probably right as I'm now just think about opening my wallet for MJ CU game cause he fucked the pooch pretty hard on Warhammer and they showed me a wealth more about the game then Brad so far...
 
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