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Izo I dont know what your fascination with dirk is but it is weird. Much like your fascination with my dick and diabetes correlation.
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People were talking about shit kids say.
We were traveling in Jamaica with our friends. They have a girl who was 4 at the time. We were on a bus that was packed with white tourists and 4 or 5 Jamaican tour guides. Anyone that has been to Jamaica knows full and well the island is a shit hole. Beautiful, but a shit hole. Not a place you want to get lost or end up in the wrong location.
Keep in mind now this packed bus we are on. Driving down the road, it's unusually quiet in the bus. My buddy's kid suddenly and quite loudly (she was and is a very loud kid and at that time was quite annoying) exclaims:
"Daddy, daddy, look over there at the monkeys"
Well naturally everyone on the bus starts looking around figuring we just passed a zoo or something cool.
"Daddy, look the monkeys! Look at all the monkeys over there!" As she points off to the left. Just about everyone turns their head and a few people bust out laughing for a few seconds and then loudly choke back the laugh. Quite a few are straining to not laugh but it's obvious they want to.
It took me a few seconds to put it together. There was a crew of workers with their shirts off doing work in a park, behind a fence, a bit off the side of the road. Most of them were hunched over picking up stuff and putting it into some bag or basket. From a quick look well, shit, you can see how a young kid would make the mistake.
I found it fucking hilarious yet embarrassing at the same time. She kept going on and on about the monkey's and how she wanted stop. Until my friend finally and way too late IMO, told her to shut up and tried to explain in a hushed voice that those weren't monkeys but people.
We were traveling in Jamaica with our friends. They have a girl who was 4 at the time. We were on a bus that was packed with white tourists and 4 or 5 Jamaican tour guides. Anyone that has been to Jamaica knows full and well the island is a shit hole. Beautiful, but a shit hole. Not a place you want to get lost or end up in the wrong location.
Keep in mind now this packed bus we are on. Driving down the road, it's unusually quiet in the bus. My buddy's kid suddenly and quite loudly (she was and is a very loud kid and at that time was quite annoying) exclaims:
"Daddy, daddy, look over there at the monkeys"
Well naturally everyone on the bus starts looking around figuring we just passed a zoo or something cool.
"Daddy, look the monkeys! Look at all the monkeys over there!" As she points off to the left. Just about everyone turns their head and a few people bust out laughing for a few seconds and then loudly choke back the laugh. Quite a few are straining to not laugh but it's obvious they want to.
It took me a few seconds to put it together. There was a crew of workers with their shirts off doing work in a park, behind a fence, a bit off the side of the road. Most of them were hunched over picking up stuff and putting it into some bag or basket. From a quick look well, shit, you can see how a young kid would make the mistake.
I found it fucking hilarious yet embarrassing at the same time. She kept going on and on about the monkey's and how she wanted stop. Until my friend finally and way too late IMO, told her to shut up and tried to explain in a hushed voice that those weren't monkeys but people.
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So the death topic came up with my 6.5 year old last night. Frankly I am surprised it took this long with school etc. we have just been fortunate to not have lost any friends or family the last few years.
Anyway, for the first time as a parent I felt a tinge of jealousy toward parents that believe in god/church/religion. It must be really nice to be able to tell their kids that there is a Disneyland in the sky just waiting for them if they are good person and that everyone they love becomes an angel etc. (Not trying to start a religious debate here, you raise your kids however you choose to. No shots fired!)
I stuck to my guns and did not give into the temptation of those stories. It was hard, he cried and he was scared. I decided to talk some science with him since he is always talking about being a scientist when he gets older. I told him how 300 years ago the average life expectancy was less than 40 but now it is close to 80. I told him that maybe he could become a scientist and help add a few more years to life expectancy, maybe even double it.
We talked about eating healthy and exercising the mind and body as well as resting the mind and body when needed. We talked about enjoying each day and living life to it's fullest. I used a line my old college coach used to say ll the time, I think he got from Woody Hayes...
Anyway, for the first time as a parent I felt a tinge of jealousy toward parents that believe in god/church/religion. It must be really nice to be able to tell their kids that there is a Disneyland in the sky just waiting for them if they are good person and that everyone they love becomes an angel etc. (Not trying to start a religious debate here, you raise your kids however you choose to. No shots fired!)
I stuck to my guns and did not give into the temptation of those stories. It was hard, he cried and he was scared. I decided to talk some science with him since he is always talking about being a scientist when he gets older. I told him how 300 years ago the average life expectancy was less than 40 but now it is close to 80. I told him that maybe he could become a scientist and help add a few more years to life expectancy, maybe even double it.
We talked about eating healthy and exercising the mind and body as well as resting the mind and body when needed. We talked about enjoying each day and living life to it's fullest. I used a line my old college coach used to say ll the time, I think he got from Woody Hayes...
All in all I think it was a good talk, though very painful to see your kid cry like that. The good news is he did not wake up with nightmares like I feared, though I don't really think I am in the clear on that for about a week. Hopefully the distraction of Christmas will keep him occupied and this whole thing will blow over. And yes, we celebrate Christmas! The Gluttoness American Pagan version of Christmas!
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My own mother is pissing me off a bit.
There's a fairly long back story but the tldr is she was a drunk for most of my life. Been in rehab over a dozen times and in my 20s attempted suicide over 5 times. Needless to say, my relationship is very dry at best and I mostly don't care that much - very numb.
On Christmas we have to visit a whole bunch of people, and our stays are always short. To alleviate this I asked my mother if we could visit on Christmas eve or the day after to exchange gifts, that way she could spend more time with the kid. She flipped out, texting me nonstop in very bipolar responses. Kept leaving Nasty voice-mail and calling my work phone. Really fucked with my workload today. Eventually I told her to fuck off, I guess she started to harass my brother and sister as well.
Just made me feel like a piece of shit even though I had fairly honorable intentions. I don't bring up all the shitty stuff she did to us to her as leverage, but I was really close today. If it wasn't Christmas..
Sorry for the vent. Just been in a shitty mood all night.
There's a fairly long back story but the tldr is she was a drunk for most of my life. Been in rehab over a dozen times and in my 20s attempted suicide over 5 times. Needless to say, my relationship is very dry at best and I mostly don't care that much - very numb.
On Christmas we have to visit a whole bunch of people, and our stays are always short. To alleviate this I asked my mother if we could visit on Christmas eve or the day after to exchange gifts, that way she could spend more time with the kid. She flipped out, texting me nonstop in very bipolar responses. Kept leaving Nasty voice-mail and calling my work phone. Really fucked with my workload today. Eventually I told her to fuck off, I guess she started to harass my brother and sister as well.
Just made me feel like a piece of shit even though I had fairly honorable intentions. I don't bring up all the shitty stuff she did to us to her as leverage, but I was really close today. If it wasn't Christmas..
Sorry for the vent. Just been in a shitty mood all night.
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Sorry to hear that Noodle, family members make drama during the holidays are the worst. Especially in your situation with a new baby.
My father-in-law and step-mother-in-law always cause drama as well. He was pretty much an absentee father when my wife was growing up and that has continued on to his grand-daughter, never makes any effort to see him. But god forbid be doesn't get the "premium" holiday slots (Thanksgiving Dinner, X-Mas morning, etc.) he gets all bent out of shape like we are slighting him somehow. Yeah, like you are somehow more entitled than the two other sets of grandparents who have always been there.
It's not like we don't make an effort either but the majority of our phone calls go un returned and it definitely is a one way street. Once every 2-3 years he'll say or do something real nasty that sends my wife into a tail-spin for several days cause she can't understand how he can be such a shitty parent/grandparent. Those are the times that really boil my blood.
My father-in-law and step-mother-in-law always cause drama as well. He was pretty much an absentee father when my wife was growing up and that has continued on to his grand-daughter, never makes any effort to see him. But god forbid be doesn't get the "premium" holiday slots (Thanksgiving Dinner, X-Mas morning, etc.) he gets all bent out of shape like we are slighting him somehow. Yeah, like you are somehow more entitled than the two other sets of grandparents who have always been there.
It's not like we don't make an effort either but the majority of our phone calls go un returned and it definitely is a one way street. Once every 2-3 years he'll say or do something real nasty that sends my wife into a tail-spin for several days cause she can't understand how he can be such a shitty parent/grandparent. Those are the times that really boil my blood.
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Damn. In her defense she's always wanted to be a part of her life,to the point where i told her she couldn't be coming over every single Saturday since that was my majority of family time myself. She's overbearing. My real problem though is she did a lot of bad shit, really messed us all up - I mean, I had to answer the phone at work and be told my mother is probably about to die as she tried to kill herself, messes you up. She too wants prime time spots in the holidays, much like you said as if she somehow earned it. She doesn't get it.
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New occurrence as of this week with my 2.5 year old.
Every night this week he has woken up in the middle of the night, around 1-3 a.m., and comes into our bedroom and wants to get in bed with us. My wife would scoop him up and put him in bed with us every night so far until last night, she took him back into his room and put him in bed and he lost his shit...blood curdling screaming until she finally relented and brought him back into our bedroom
Fun times...I don't know whether this is going to be just a short-term thing, or if I should work on nipping it in the bud now so it doesn't become a long-term habit. I sleep for shit with the kid in the bed, he always turns sideways, kicks, etc. and I'm a light sleeper anyways. My sleep is basically over once he gets in bed with us.
Every night this week he has woken up in the middle of the night, around 1-3 a.m., and comes into our bedroom and wants to get in bed with us. My wife would scoop him up and put him in bed with us every night so far until last night, she took him back into his room and put him in bed and he lost his shit...blood curdling screaming until she finally relented and brought him back into our bedroom
Fun times...I don't know whether this is going to be just a short-term thing, or if I should work on nipping it in the bud now so it doesn't become a long-term habit. I sleep for shit with the kid in the bed, he always turns sideways, kicks, etc. and I'm a light sleeper anyways. My sleep is basically over once he gets in bed with us.
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I worked nights during my son's first year and the way my wife tells it, there were some times she ended up dozing in the rocker while he slept because he wouldn't sleep otherwise. It took us a long time to make the transition from crib to bed. In fact, I think we ultimately ended up ditching the bed, put the mattress on the floor, and surrounded it with blankets because 9 times out of 10 we'd go in to check on him and he'd be off the mattress and on the floor all wrapped up in his blankets. I was a literal zombie his first year, working nights, getting maybe 3-4 hours a sleep during the days I worked and not much more when I didn't. Things got better as he got older but damn that first year or so sucked balls.
My daughter, by comparison, was cake. So much so that I don't recall anything about that transition.
I know some parents who do things like co-sleep and abhor things like sleep training ("The poor babies!", "Those selfish parents!"). I'm all for doing what you need to do, but in my mind that sets a bad precedent. These same parents have a tendency to shelter their kids for far too long, and you end up with teenagers who don't know how to do shit and are basically pimples on the ass end of society.
My daughter, by comparison, was cake. So much so that I don't recall anything about that transition.
I know some parents who do things like co-sleep and abhor things like sleep training ("The poor babies!", "Those selfish parents!"). I'm all for doing what you need to do, but in my mind that sets a bad precedent. These same parents have a tendency to shelter their kids for far too long, and you end up with teenagers who don't know how to do shit and are basically pimples on the ass end of society.
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Seems like you have your answer, IMO. If you can't sleep its not going to work.
It's become a habit and it just got reinforced when he lost his shit and got what he wanted. You'll have to break it eventually, up to you when that happens.
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Re: Christmas time and prime slots. Mine and my wife's family have always been super accommodating with timing for birthdays, Christmas, Thanksgiving etc. I mean we'll celebrate birthdays a week or two away from their actual date, and Thanksgiving/Christmas can be whenever. There is no 'primetime' with us. I can't imagine having to deal with grandparents who want specific times ONLY because those are the appropriate times.
This is the most atheist thing I've ever read.
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Thanks Tuco! You complimented me and probably stoked Hodj's OCD to be the Alpha Atheist.
Merry Christmas, enjoy your false God!
We did Christmas last week in San Diego, one at the in-laws and one with my family. I work today through Sunday so we did Christmas with just our family yesterday.
No reason to stick to a specific day.
No reason to stick to a specific day.
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The one thing we wanted to focus on this year was having our own private Christmas with the kid. This is what threw everything off, but it was important for us to begin our own traditions. Anyways, fuck people that can't understand that. To me from now on the Christmases are all about the kids anyways.
