Parent Thread

Well, then. Bourbon is the only answer.

lurkingdirk_sl said:

These are good responses. If a seven year old is asked "how are you?" and his/her response is "Why the fuck do you want to know?" There has been a failure by the parent. Proper speech at proper times. I don't care about particular words, and I don't doubt that kids are going to learn them. I am European, and I have an European sensibility about language and so forth. I don't get why you are teasing this out. Are you really merely trying to get into something with me? Cause that's what it seems like.

But, regardless of your intentions, I have answered. Perhaps there's a good conversation in there somewhere.

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Here's what I think has happened:


Here is why that is:

lurkingdirk_sl said:

Man, I havea couple friends who were not careful about what they said initially, and when their first kidwas starting to talkhe would repeat things they said. At one point the couple was arguing, trying not to in front of the kid, and they were apparently glaring at each other and the kid was looking from one to the other and finally blurted out "Well fuck!" Apparently that's how they had been interacting when they thought the kid was sleeping.

They instantly became much more careful with what they said...

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lurkingdirk_sl said:

These are good responses.If a seven year old is asked"how are you?" and his/her response is "Why the fuck do you want to know?" There has been a failure by the parent. Proper speech at proper times. I don't care about particular words, and I don't doubt that kids are going to learn them. I am European, and I have an European sensibility about language and so forth. I don't get why you are teasing this out. Are you really merely trying to get into something with me? Cause that's what it seems like.

But, regardless of your intentions, I have answered. Perhaps there's a good conversation in there somewhere.

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It seems to me we were talking about kindergarten children, not 7 year olds. Okay. How young do you require your children to be well mannered then? Chaos makes an excellent point, which from my pov resolves itself by peer selection, ridicule being means to that end. Maybe American schools are different?

If you're indeed 1.g European you know innately what I'm referring to. To a European there's a distinct observable double standard, a dichotomy in the us - the overly polite, superficial, well mannered, borderline puritan, in greetings and conversation vs that of popular music, Hollywood, the internet, and general sexualization of the media. This double standard seems to be upheld on this board. Innately, a voice and pronunciation of a British person is percieved as intelligent, while that of, say, an Australian is to a lesser extent.

I'm saying being well mannered is more than the abscense of bad words in children. Substance over form. Actions over intents. I'm pointing out it's percieved as hypocritical from the other side of the pond. At least when children and their vocabulary are concerned.

As for me engaging you, I believe it takes 2 to tango - that and you're in the threads I frequent. Oddly enough that involves the Ask a gay guy anything, Mists communion and other such well mannered and formal threads in the shaw and the SS besides this one in the GUS - on a gamer board. On the Internet.

That being said, not the intent of this post, but you seem to seek it whenever I post. So here it is: we're still waiting on your input in the Religion thread. Being that you're self proclaimed religious and you've made some statements towards manners, education, morality and indoctrination which have a good conversation in them. Head on over to the Religion thread - lots of friendly folks over there. Or do you think it's more important if Mists gets humiliated for 6000 dollars or if some poor slob gets shawed and why they're 'upset'?
The challenge stands.

opiate82_sl said:

Pretty much everything you need to know about raising a baby/kid right here, especially in regards to CIO.

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Humanity has been raising children for literally the entirety of its existence, but parents trying to crowdsource answers to questions they might have are completely fucked.

Noodle, CIO is a method many parents have found offers short-term sacrifice for long-term sleep benefits(for the parent) if you can manage it. Until you have to travel somewhere or your child gets sick or they start to understand object permanence and then you might have to CIO again, but it's easier subsequent times except when it isn't because you aren't used to your child not sleeping anymore. Hope this helps!

Actually last night it was my wife's turn to put him down. Rather than rushing right in she waited 5 minutes before going in. He was a mess for like an hour but eventually when she put him down he went to bed. She even put him down when he was still awake (this is new) and he fell asleep. I thought it was going to be another "not going to bed until 4:30AM" type of nights.

Yeah, it's important that a child knows how to act properly. It's not important that they always act that way, but they HAVE to know how. When a parent scolds, "Behave yourself" that should actually mean something beyond, "Stop what you are doing". They have to know what it means before they can rebel.

Not cussing in public or among strangers is part of acting properly. It's not really that it's a mortal sin. Shit, a lot of times it's cute. But kids are kids, man. They'll run around yelling, "fuuuuuuuuuuck" forhoursif you let 'em. I can only imagine how exhausting that would be.

Noodlemod_sl said:

Oh god this kid won't sleep anymore. This is the worst. Wailing everytime he is put down. Tempted to try crying it out but my dog is freaking out, super over protective.

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We are having a hell of a time with our guy right now too. He's got a runny nose, sneezing, and sounds like a chainsaw revving. The last two nights he has slept like 2 or 3 hours both nights. It's fucking torture. You can see it in his face that he's utterly miserable. I feel bad for the lil guy. Perfect timing with Christmas!! YAY it'll be a zombie Christmas for everyone 'cause that's what I feel like right now. ugggggh

Izo_sl said:

That being said, not the intent of this post, but you seem to seek it whenever I post. So here it is: we're still waiting on your input in the Religion thread. Being that you're self proclaimed religious and you've made some statements towards manners, education, morality and indoctrination which have a good conversation in them. Head on over to the Religion thread - lots of friendly folks over there. Or do you think it's more important if Mists gets humiliated for 6000 dollars or if some poor slob gets shawed and why they're 'upset'?
The challenge stands.

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No. I have no interest in posting in that thread. I have explained this to you, but you don't seem to grasp it.

Also, if you are not able to extrapolate a correlation between my previous posts, the ones you quoted, you're more obtuse than I thought.

I do not seek your engagement, and I feel no compunction to have any discussion with you. But thanks.

Chicken.

Cad_sl said:

I never really did the cry it out thing. Each of my three kids slept with us until they were about 18 months, and at that time we transitioned them into their own room and gradually got them used to sleeping alone. My 2.5 year old now sleeps in his own bed but will, about half the time, come running into our room and sleep with us at 3-4am. At some point they all just stopped doing it and stayed in their own room all night. But I'm happy to let my kiddos come hop in bed with me, I don't care. They're little snuggle buddies.

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Based on my internet research you are the worst parent in the entire world. Might as well send your future murderous and drug-dealing children to prison now.

Cad_sl said:

I never really did the cry it out thing. Each of my three kids slept with us until they were about 18 months, and at that time we transitioned them into their own room and gradually got them used to sleeping alone. My 2.5 year old now sleeps in his own bed but will, about half the time, come running into our room and sleep with us at 3-4am. At some point they all just stopped doing it and stayed in their own room all night. But I'm happy to let my kiddos come hop in bed with me, I don't care. They're little snuggle buddies.

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I make no judgement on this, but I have to say that sounds like hell. My bed is for me and my wife. We never had the kids sleep with us - probably between 2 and 5 exceptions per child. Just not a thing I'm good with. If it works for you, super. I'd go crazy.

Izo_sl said:

Chicken.

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Yeah, no. I have no desire to see people like you try to comprehend something beyond you and be nothing but judgmental. You are really good at that. Have fun in your thread. I don't want to be there. bye now.

Cad_sl said:

Yea a lot of people look at us funny when I tell them that, but it just worked for us and never had a big issue. I also fall asleep in like 30 seconds and even if woken up can fall back asleep in 30 seconds so them being in bed with me doesn't bother me. I realize not everyone is like that.

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See, that makes sense. If I get woken up, I'm awake for hours. Would not work for me, glad it works for you.

lurkingdirk_sl said:

Yeah, no. I have no desire to see people like you try to comprehend something beyond you and be nothing but judgmental. You are really good at that. Have fun in your thread. I don't want to be there. bye now.

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Chicken shit.

Izo you're annoying me.

Eyashusa_sl said:

Izo you're annoying me.

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Little bit of advice, Izo: let the wookiee win

We did do "cry it out", but the way they say to in the book, not just letting them cry until they pass out from exhaustion. 1 minute at first, build to 5 minutes, never go past that. Only had to do this with my oldest, the other two never had a problem.