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Gravel

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I mean it's quite clear they've said over and over again that they want combat to be meaningful and they've nerfed anything that automates or trivializes it. If you're building a fotm character that uses triggers especially and not expecting a nerf you're kinda dumb. If you want to be safe from nerfs play a warrior.
Where's the line though is my point. So I decide to make a new char and new build, how do I know they won't nerf the shit out of the next one and I just repeat this cycle over and over because the devs don't like the way I'm playing?
 

TJT

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Warrior is getting much more enjoyable. I am almost to the end of Act II. Early game warrior just sucks but once you have so many bonuses on Stun and Armor break you can melt stuff.
 
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TJT

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Seems to me that if you are running any build that does most of it for you you can reasonably expect that to be nerfed. If you are not "comboing" at least 2-3 skills on the regular it's probably in danger. Comboing as I am pressing E, R, T or whatever mapped buttons repeatedly.
 

Palum

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Where's the line though is my point. So I decide to make a new char and new build, how do I know they won't nerf the shit out of the next one and I just repeat this cycle over and over because the devs don't like the way I'm playing?
If it's what everyone is playing on twitch and/or plays itself then it's probably over the line
 
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Kirun

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Where's the line though is my point. So I decide to make a new char and new build, how do I know they won't nerf the shit out of the next one and I just repeat this cycle over and over because the devs don't like the way I'm playing?
How is this a different cycle from any online RPG ever though?

Basically, if you're playing a Dad hands build, expect it to be nerfed. Or just play PoE1 RF and snore your way to loot.
 

Mahes

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Well, I was building the Comet Sorc and never even reached Comet. Now, I guess I try a new class until some of the other stuff gets buffed. I kind of wish that as they nerfed something they would have taken a moment to review the other skills and perhaps strengthened the weaker ones. As I do not have a ton of gold, it makes it difficult to just try out new skills.

P.S. If they do not want the game to be Auto friendly, then remove the skill gems that do things automatically. Of course people will find ways to break a gem that auto casts......the fuck.
 
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zombiewizardhawk

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Well, I was building the Comet Sorc and never even reached Comet. Now, I guess I try a new class until some of the other stuff gets buffed. I kind of wish that as they nerfed something they would have taken a moment to review the other skills and perhaps strengthened the weaker ones. As I do not have a ton of gold, it makes it difficult to just try out new skills.

P.S. If they do not want the game to be Auto friendly, then remove the skill gems that do things automatically. Of course people will find ways to break a gem that auto casts......the fuck.
Expecting them to buff anything is a losing game. Going all the way back to closed beta on PoE 1 they virtually never buff anything, only nerfs to anything except whatever op build they decide is ok to be fotm at the time (hi2u years of BV being 10x better than anything and other skills still getting nerfs throughout it's life as the meta king).
 
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Gravel

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Seems to me that if you are running any build that does most of it for you you can reasonably expect that to be nerfed. If you are not "comboing" at least 2-3 skills on the regular it's probably in danger. Comboing as I am pressing E, R, T or whatever mapped buttons repeatedly.
So then I go back to, the devs want you to play a certain way if and you're having fun in a way they don't approve of, go fuck yourself. In what basically amounts to a mostly single player game.

And as said, if they don't want that style of play, why even include those types of skills to begin with?

The whole thing just leads to a shit show. Everyone agreeing with the devs until it's their build they nerf into shit.
 
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Mahes

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They just Buffed Life Drain. So I presume they actually do tweak upwards. Now, people will go try it out, somebody a lot faster who plays the game 18 hours a day will break Life Drain and then the slower people will feel the hit when they renerf it.
 
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Daidraco

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I shelved my ice bitch a couple days ago because I couldnt find a +cold spell item to save my damn life and was just not having fun with it. Cucked out and did minions but holy shit the difference a little twink gear early on and having + minion on a scepter and my head slot makes is night and day. Just playing a couple hours here and there I've got my first acendancy and working my way through Act2 no problem. For my skill its a good starter toon to build up some currency and gear so when I go try something else I at least wont have to struggle for those two things.
Its no surprise that in a game like this, you go with FOTM build to farm up shit/get started - then switch to a toon you really want to play afterwards. If I was going to make a Warrior, I'd do it now after I've got my Merc to 75. Not only do I have the currencies to do shit now, but I also know how to avoid NPC's, including bosses, damage almost 100% of the time.

The only boss that I wish would die in a fire is the fucking Chimera. Fight takes forever cause I cant fucking hit it 90% of the time so it ends up being stressful as fuck like a Mythic Raid boss in WoW.
 
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Daidraco

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Where's the line though is my point. So I decide to make a new char and new build, how do I know they won't nerf the shit out of the next one and I just repeat this cycle over and over because the devs don't like the way I'm playing?
I get what you're saying, even though the rest of people are like "be sensible!" - The guy with glasses, johnathan or w/e - Even said that he and his team werent going to make drastic changes during the middle of a season. In my mind, Early Release, is a season in itself. Basic mechanic interactions like that build should have been figured out. Especially when they have POE 1 as a testing ground of past experience. I understand the "why" of it being nerfed. But it should have been a progressive nerf, instead of an extreme nerf all at once.

If anything, everyone should agree that they should give a free respec book every time a major mechanic is changed like that.
 
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Gravel

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The other issue is...respec to what? There's been people in this thread posting for a while about how none of the other spells actually do any damage. The reason the comet build was so popular is because it was the only viable build.
 
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Fogel

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Lightning caster isn't bad, people were just ignoring it because of how nuts the freeze builds were. My first char was lightning caster and I made it to cruel on first playthrough with no gear.
 
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TheBeagle

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The other issue is...respec to what? There's been people in this thread posting for a while about how none of the other spells actually do any damage. The reason the comet build was so popular is because it was the only viable build.
I've heard that spark through firewall with the lightning floor boost is pretty good at melting shit for sorcs. Most lightning nodes arent that far from the cold nodes so it shouldnt be that ball busting to make the switch and try it out.
 

Intrinsic

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Last night when I tried to buy a stash tab it timed out as unsuccessful, so I waited a few minutes and tried again with the same result. Didn't lose any currency, still had 300. Go to bed log in this morning and I have two tabs. Wake up this morning and suddenly I have two Currency stash tabs and -150 coins. Wonder if that is something fixable with a ticket?
 

Kithani

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They have said multiple times they dont want it to be like PoE with 1 button nuking the screen.
the dude your opinion GIF
 

Sevens

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Warrior is getting much more enjoyable. I am almost to the end of Act II. Early game warrior just sucks but once you have so many bonuses on Stun and Armor break you can melt stuff.
Played a Minion witch, had to have help getting past Count Geonor
Played a SRS Electric Sorc, had to have help getting past Count Geonor
Played a Warrior (No build just taking whatever nodes seems cool) Beat his ass second try.
God damn warrior in this game fucks!