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Goatface

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Okay I'm gonna start Cruel when I get home tonight.....is there any differences from the first time through aside from higher levels? Do you get different rewards for the side quests or should I just worry about the main quest?

all but one are basically the same
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speaking of, anyone know what elemental ailment threshold is? don't see it or stun threshold on the stats page
 
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Daidraco

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Okay I'm gonna start Cruel when I get home tonight.....is there any differences from the first time through aside from higher levels? Do you get different rewards for the side quests or should I just worry about the main quest?
Just follow the main campaign quest again. Nothing special about it - most of your maps have the same directional heading for exits/POI's just for a heads up. The amount your character scales during these levels outpaces the Cruel difficulty by a large margin, so you should breeze through it within a handful of hours to end game.
Do you keep doing trials to get ascension points or something? I guess I'm lost on that aspect.
They implemented it on the tokens now to say if you'll get upgraded points from it or not:
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I think a lot of the shit I run into at end game should just be moved forward into the whole game. Why I didnt get my first version of this Charm until I was doing level 70 mobs (Im 76)... Makes no sense. With my Rarity of Items percentage, Im over 115% if I wear nothing but my best Rarity items.
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Palum

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all but one are basically the same
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speaking of, anyone know what elemental ailment threshold is? don't see it or stun threshold on the stats page
I think it's for all the stuff like ignite shock and chill which counts up to give you the status.
 

TJT

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Old Kripp saying what a good amount of those in here have been saying.



High maps have almost no viability because it all revolves around you using the dodge roll iframe to avoid instadeath. No matter how high your defenses are. High reward chill playstyle is simply not present the longer you play.
 
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Juvarisx

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Yea my chill went out the window when I saw Yellow maps gave an additional -10% resistance and Red maps gave my character another 10% again. Oh boy I sure LOVED that.

Wheres my damn crafting bench GGG, stop being stubborn.
 

Soygen

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When a controller is active you get more UI options, I don't know why we can't get it when playing with KB/M.

To be clear, you can get it on PC if you have the controller enabled.
Thanks, yeah shortly after I posted I went into the options when the gamepad was in and was able to activate that setup.
 
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Kirun

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I hate this philosophy a lot, there needs to be easy builds that are "good". They dont have to be great or the best in the game but they should atleast be good mappers up to T16, sometime you just wanna slay some demons and get some loot while chilling. Having to pay 100% attention at all times is what will eventually kill this for me.
Those exist. They're all over PoE1.

PoE2 is a different game and they've said repeatedly that it would be.
 

Juvarisx

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Those exist. They're all over PoE1.

PoE2 is a different game and they've said repeatedly that it would be.

Here I will help you out.

I get what they are trying to do with this game, I am one of the few on this board this played PoE starting in open beta in 2013 when Diablo 3 bombed out. I also know that 95% of the people posting here have not hit maps in any meaningful fashion, I have. I am doing red maps and its not chill, has no way to really be chill and it gets exhausting. This game will make PoE burnout look non existant and if they want to create a SUSTAINABLE game they are going to have to come off some of the thing they are doing.

I am not asking for easy, braindead, Blizzard content. I am asking for shit like "Hey maybe all the on death effects, stormcalls, mines, poison puddles, chaos bullshit maybe to NOT BE FUCKING HIDDEN UNDER YOUR OWN FUCKING EFFECTS SO YOU CAN SEE WHATS GOING ON AND DIE LOSING YOUR FUCKING MAP CAUSE THEY ARE MAKING BAD FUCKING CHOICES".

But hey im just some filthy casual doing T 16's in PoE2 after a week while 90% of the players cant get past act 3 like Quin. What do I know.

Jesus fucking Christ buddy
 
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TJT

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Those exist. They're all over PoE1.

PoE2 is a different game and they've said repeatedly that it would be.
That is fine. But the criticism here is over longterm replayability. Which should be the most important thing to GGG. Lack of chill and rewarding gameplay is a significant issue for that business model.

Most people don't beat their dick in the door over Dark Souls to such an extent that they'll pay MTX to do it.
 
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Arbitrary

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Old Kripp saying what a good amount of those in here have been saying.



High maps have almost no viability because it all revolves around you using the dodge roll iframe to avoid instadeath. No matter how high your defenses are. High reward chill playstyle is simply not present the longer you play.


"After ridiculing Ruthless everyone's playing the graphical and mechanical update and having so much fun how about that"

Uh yeah, everyone.
 

Gravel

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Old Kripp saying what a good amount of those in here have been saying.



High maps have almost no viability because it all revolves around you using the dodge roll iframe to avoid instadeath. No matter how high your defenses are. High reward chill playstyle is simply not present the longer you play.

That sounds really bad for the viability of the game period.

Basically everyone is going to get to mid-tier maps and quit.
 

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If you want to get OP and grind out yellow maps and chill I think that should be an option or goal. But with red maps I don't think a player should ever be able to just turn their brain off and chillax their way through them. Nothing wrong with having the absolute top tier of gameplay reserved for the autistic, hyperfocused dudes that can play at a higher level. I say this as a dad gamer that's ok with not being able to defeat that top of the pyramid content.
 
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Springbok

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My big problem here is reward vs time investment. Item chase is non existent, and byo item isn’t either because the high lvl currency needed to craft progression gear drops too infrequently. I like POE2, better than POE actually (a game I’m admittedly not very fond of), but this game feels like it needs a ton of work to make it palatable to the general gaming population. It’s f2p but has no hook currently to get people to open their wallets.

Making this a poor man’s From game is fine, but there is zero reward for doing the tough content. Once you kill everything in the campaign, why are people logging in? To get instant killed in maps? Where are set items? Interesting fun broken uniques? Oh you spent an hour on a campaign boss? Great! Here are two mana flasks bitch!? Boss specific uniques to farm? Nah buy blues on vendors and slam currency gambling for a decent rare. Gay ass loot system like its little brothers.

Its EA, sure, but I think they’ll have to fundamentally redesign this game to appeal to the sweaty masses who spend money on wings and footprints.
 
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Juvarisx

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If you want to get OP and grind out yellow maps and chill I think that should be an option or goal. But with red maps I don't think a player should ever be able to just turn their brain off and chillax their way through them. Nothing wrong with having the absolute top tier of gameplay reserved for the autistic, hyperfocused dudes that can play at a higher level. I say this as a dad gamer that's ok with not being able to defeat that top of the pyramid content.

Oh no you see there's T16 maps, then you can really fuck with it via the atlas. You can add +8 to map boss/pinnacle boss level if you want then add in corruption or irradiation and make it turbo autist. Or making Breach harder, or Deli to have double difficulty scaling. T16 isn't even close to the end game this time.

People are really going to fuck themselves and quit this time. Guess how cancer this node is on T16+?

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TJT

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If you want to get OP and grind out yellow maps and chill I think that should be an option or goal. But with red maps I don't think a player should ever be able to just turn their brain off and chillax their way through them. Nothing wrong with having the absolute top tier of gameplay reserved for the autistic, hyperfocused dudes that can play at a higher level. I say this as a dad gamer that's ok with not being able to defeat that top of the pyramid content.
I think it's like he says. Having dad content is fine if it lets you still meaningfully progress. Just at a glacial pace. You can't do that here. Any content you can Dad your way through provides nothing for you.
 

TJT

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It’s f2p but has no hook currently to get people to open their wallets.
I recognized this the second I killed off Count Orgham or whatever. You have hordes of players saying the Executioner is too hard to beat. The fun in Dark Souls games of grinding to kill Melania or any of the hard bosses is that you KNOW you only have to beat it once.

That is not the case here.
 
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Khane

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all but one are basically the same
act 3
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act 6
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speaking of, anyone know what elemental ailment threshold is? don't see it or stun threshold on the stats page

These thresholds are almost always based on the size of the hit vs your life pool (which you can change to ES if you are an ES character on gear/tree)
 

Kirun

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I think it's like he says. Having dad content is fine if it lets you still meaningfully progress. Just at a glacial pace. You can't do that here. Any content you can Dad your way through provides nothing for you.
Literally nothing? You get zero loot? No currency? Yeah, that probably needs to be fixed then.
 
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