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ClivesTriceps

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Peeps are having trouble with 1st and 2nd ascendance like my kid which tried on a melee. He alt f4ed after a few tries and said fuck this. And hes a die hard POE1 player. Why did they ever add the stupid honor mechanic that is so fucking brutal is beyond me. In poe1 first 2 ascendance and even the 3rd ware pretty much free. The whole "not getting hit" BS is laughably bad. Its funny how none of this honor shit was mentioned in their reveal, lol. Because they know its not fun and bad. Not only this, but add in some RNG of yellow mobs and your run can be easy as fuck or brutally undoable.
I agree. I had a bit of trouble with the first ascendence trial because of the honor system. Probably had to do it 7 times because I'd run out of honor before killing the final boss.
 

Daidraco

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Like I know they love Sanctum and i know you are supposed to farm honor resist, and max honor and shit, but putting ascendancy behind it is still stupid and people still wont be happy even if its "easier" for melee.
The thing is.. at least to me: We dont even have all of the skills, weapons, support gems, or the classes themselves that will have interactions for the current crop of classes. So.. we're basically going to guinea pig the actual release, too.

I feel lucky to have started with Merc - but some of my biggest gripes about the end game maps... although a few are being addressed in this upcoming patch.... But most of them arent. I'm over here fighting shit off the screen because that means I can actually see what Im standing in, or whats coming at me. But these fucking monsters that can Laser me from the edge of the screen are as close to a one shot without actually being a one shot, as they can get. Im at least up in the tiers where you are now.. but I still think everything is a mess.

Regardless - Im still looking forward to the future of this game for once. I havent played anything that has had me dump this much time into it, willingly, in what feels like forever.
 
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Il_Duce Lightning Lord Rule

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Peeps are having trouble with 1st and 2nd ascendance like my kid which tried on a melee. He alt f4ed after a few tries and said fuck this. And hes a die hard POE1 player. Why did they ever add the stupid honor mechanic that is so fucking brutal is beyond me. In poe1 first 2 ascendance and even the 3rd ware pretty much free. The whole "not getting hit" BS is laughably bad. Its funny how none of this honor shit was mentioned in their reveal, lol. Because they know its not fun and bad. Not only this, but add in some RNG of yellow mobs and your run can be easy as fuck or brutally undoable.
I think it's their intent to fail it a few times til you get some +honor and +honor resist relics.

But ya, I'm with you. That intent is fucking retarded, and I hate sanctum. Even during the sanctum league I didn't like it with a build that was ranged and had freezes. It's just anathema to my tanky build mentality to have to dodge literally everything or fail miserably. Ultimatum is less bad, but also more bad in different ways. There are certain combos of downsides that are CRAZY bad. If you get them, you might as well start over. And the rewards blow goats.


Comparing it to Labyrinth from POE 1, I def remember it being more dangerous back in the day as a new player. And dying to Izaro or a trap + debuff combo and having to start over was frustrating, but not in the same way. That's definitely been a while ago now though. Like maybe 2018 or '19. Since then, lab has pretty much been a joke, and just an annoyance to find the reqs for Uber lab was the main hurdle.
 
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Cinge

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They need an actual fucking AH in game jfc

This. People will say things like my player interaction or "immersion. But really having to go through their site with a ton of filters for each item, then whisper and then meet the person to trade manually is crazy.

I sold an item today but the first 4 whispers were from people that didnt even speak english. First french, then chinese(I think), spanish and finally something I have no clue. Finally got a 5th guy , but I was in act 3, he was in 2. So had to go to the caravan in act 2 to manually click a guy and hit trade.

If trading is the main way to gear up as a design decision, I probably wont play long, finish campaign and do a little mapping. Farming currency isnt fun or the same as just farming drops, at least imo. WIll see how it goes, this has a while to go before offical release, so anything is possible. I would even be happier with easier crafting as another way, instead of player to player trading via currency.
 
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Xevy

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In true GGG fashion, those patch notes are good, still missing some glaring issues (expedition locker in, map/fragment tab, rituals spawning with 35% area possible, etc). Also it's not as much as what's IN that patch notes, but what's NOT in the patch notes and in the patch. They very often do a quick "fuck it" and reduce monster hp/dmg of mechanics without putting them in patch notes. I'd suspect that's coming and people will just assume it was weird stuff like dmg scaling in high level maps/mob crit bonus.

Definitely good progress, but at this point, for people in maps, storage is one of the top 3 issues. I know they need to make their money off tabs, but having true newbs buy quads for waystones instead of 1 map tab that works for the first few weeks is kind of shitty. It's GGG though, so I'd bet 75% chance it's negligence and 25% chance it's greed.

Maps having shit design is a big issue and they'd have to re-do everything afaik to fix most of them. Maybe there's some plug and chug they can do to like make minimum path width or something, but I wouldn't expect this to happen until release.
 
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Mist

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In true GGG fashion, those patch notes are good, still missing some glaring issues (expedition locker in, map/fragment tab, rituals spawning with 35% area possible, etc).
Fuck Rituals, honestly. The only thing I die to at this point are rituals and breaches.
 

nevergone

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I'm taking things pretty slowly, but playing a sorcerer. Initially rolled a witch, but then realized the ascendancy classes weren't really my cup of tea.
Decided to go with Chronomancer because I enjoy the idea of time manipulation and crowd control (I'm going with temporal rift, time stop, and the slow aura).

The primary attacks consist of chaos - essence drain, contagion, and curses fully built into with passives. Siphon wand for the culling and power charge generation - although I can't use them yet prior to getting hexblast.

Bosses have been adequately frustrating at times, but usually my temporal rift is enough to get through them by rewinding when I take a hard hit.
Approaching level 30, really looking forward to getting my chaos totem and eventually hexblast which I'll build out with potential.

It's a long plan, but it's been fun so far.
 
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Utnayan

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I’m definitely getting my ass kicked. Ha. Thanks to Daidraco Daidraco for helping me out with the count. Had him down to 10% constantly and then would die to some add/aoe I couldn’t see or roll out of.

Now I’m in Act 2 in the very beginning and getting slaughtered by Rathbreaker. I’m staying out of the range of the archers, but then the adds come and I get blocked in and on that one sound queue, knowing I’m about to get one shot dead and get blocked by fucking hyenas.

Love the game. Just wish I wasn’t old and or suck. I expect boss hang ups in Elden Ring/From software games. Just not ARPG’s. Ha.
 
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Slaanesh69

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Just my daily post saying that Sanctum and Ultimatum are probably the least played mechanics in PoE1, so this is GGG saying Play My Way or The Highway or, We Ain't Wasting Previous Programming Time.

Random mechanics for iconic class specialization and power increase is the absolute dumbest idea possible.

That is all.
 
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rhinohelix

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Trading is pretty well integrated into the game, even if it does use a website for interaction.
It's "integrated" into the game by necessity because the crafting system sucks and the power of 500K+ players getting things they can't uses or would rather have a designated fiat currency for trading necessitates it. It's shit design and the fact that other systems have grown up around their shit design to carry it doesn't make it any less shit. Here at the start of a new game, there is no reason to keep using a shit system because "we always have".

"Well, then it would be too easy if I was able to craft my own rares, rather than farm a few Exs and buy something that dropped for someone else and double or triple (or more) my DPS". Why fix X broken system, when we have an emergent system that serves the purpose we want, which is players not complaining about our broken system?

Only broken for 99% of gameplay, works great at upper endgame, though.
 

Mist

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It's "integrated" into the game by necessity because the crafting system sucks
I used my regals and exalts to self-craft my way to the end of the campaign. Didn't start trading until maps.

I actually think crafting-while-leveling is way more "viable" in this game than PoE 1, offset by the fact that the game is legitimately hard even with good gear.
 

Daidraco

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offset by the fact that the game is legitimately hard even with good gear.
I Dont Believe You Will Ferrell GIF
 
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Kiroy

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finally got 4th ascendency, got lucky getting a 30% move speed and 50% more damage boon early carried me through the whole thing

also once comfortable with it and with op relics, running high lvl sactums is a good way to make money for normies. tons of good drops and high lvl maps ect
 
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BoozeCube

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This. People will say things like my player interaction or "immersion. But really having to go through their site with a ton of filters for each item, then whisper and then meet the person to trade manually is crazy.

I sold an item today but the first 4 whispers were from people that didnt even speak english. First french, then chinese(I think), spanish and finally something I have no clue. Finally got a 5th guy , but I was in act 3, he was in 2. So had to go to the caravan in act 2 to manually click a guy and hit trade.

If trading is the main way to gear up as a design decision, I probably wont play long, finish campaign and do a little mapping. Farming currency isnt fun or the same as just farming drops, at least imo. WIll see how it goes, this has a while to go before offical release, so anything is possible. I would even be happier with easier crafting as another way, instead of player to player trading via currency.

This is a very big core feature missing from the game. Like you said if trading is so goddamn important and built into the game then why the pure aids website. - add a fucking AH and cut all the extra step dogshit.
 
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Il_Duce Lightning Lord Rule

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This is a very big core feature missing from the game. Like you said if trading is so goddamn important and built into the game then why the pure aids website. - add a fucking AH and cut all the extra step dogshit.
POE1 players have only been begging for this for around 10 years, I'm sure they're going to stop being stubborn and do this in POE2.

Annnny time now...
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Tide27

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I’m definitely getting my ass kicked. Ha. Thanks to Daidraco Daidraco for helping me out with the count. Had him down to 10% constantly and then would die to some add/aoe I couldn’t see or roll out of.

Now I’m in Act 2 in the very beginning and getting slaughtered by Rathbreaker. I’m staying out of the range of the archers, but then the adds come and I get blocked in and on that one sound queue, knowing I’m about to get one shot dead and get blocked by fucking hyenas.

Love the game. Just wish I wasn’t old and or suck. I expect boss hang ups in Elden Ring/From software games. Just not ARPG’s. Ha.
Im not as near as good at this game as others in this thread, but 2 major things helped me out a bunch.

If you havent already raided the guild stash, do so. The weapons you can get from there will prob double / triple your dps. Also, get movement speed on your boots. Those 2 things will carry you through the campaign.
 
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mkopec

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This is a very big core feature missing from the game. Like you said if trading is so goddamn important and built into the game then why the pure aids website. - add a fucking AH and cut all the extra step dogshit.
For some reason Chris "Wolcen" Wilson wants people to meet up in game, see their hideout and shoot the shit for a sec. And since he is the head honcho around GGG, what he says goes. LOOL