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Khane

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The "must kill uniques to get gamble chances" mechanic is hilarious. Especially since there are "buckets" of levels. I have like 300 available gambles at the end game merchant, and 3 at the act 1 merchant. Apparently I'd have to farm low level uniques on a low level character to earn more! Nice!

It's definitely worth making it as painful as possible to gamble low level shit for alts. Yep. Definitely not troll at all.
 
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Penance

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There’s no way people are getting that lucky with some of the rares ive seen. My guess is people either id’ing a buncha magic stuff, or buying magic items off trade site and getting some luck with regals and maybe an ex slam
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You need to pick up every good base you see, it's why I was bitching about their archaic tetris inventory management bullshit. I shouldn't have to use portals on stash dump in a map.
 
Kirun

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Mist said:
Yes, I ID whatever interesting bases I see drop, then slam a regal into ones with two top tier desirable mods, then slam 1-3 ex because ex are basically zimbabwe dollars at endgame.

Pretty sure that's how the game is supposed to work.
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Too RNG.

I need 100% deterministic crafting so I can 100% craft BIS items 2 weeks in and quit the game wondering what it was all for and why the game is so dog shit easy/boring.

Oh, wait. That's D4.

Players think they want a thing and then cry AGAIN when they actually get the thing they think they wanted, because it just waters shit down to meaninglessness.
 
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Daidraco

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I guess my complaint is I'm 70 hours into the game, and I'm basically slave to the marketplace and, unfortunately, recently that means the currency manipulators.

So I can't craft anything, and now I can't really afford it either. And even on top of that, if I wanted to craft, I don't have enough of anything to do so. To make anything worth a shit I'd need 3 exalts per attempt, and it seems pretty unlikely I get what I want. And I get an exalt maybe once every 3-4 maps.

The whole system is shit. The only reason I'm still logging in is in hopes that if I get to higher tier maps, it'll start "fixing" itself, but I don't believe that's actually the case.

Seems like another game where the people who played 12 hours a day for the first week get their first mover advantage and everyone else struggles to tread water.
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Group with someone doing higher tiers. It cuts mapping time down significantly to have another person doing it with you. That way you can skip right to the higher waystones. If either of you die, the map just doesnt "end" - just ends for that person that died.

Grouping still needs some love, though. Like shared Fog of War or w/e its called, would be great. I'm hoping they fixed the bug that was basically killing Waystones, too. But simply going different directions - especially on maps like Augur, where its just one big ass race track circle - really fun and quick. Bosses scale like shit with 3 people, but dont scale enough with 2 and you can just dunk on them. Loot, outside of waystones, is shared though. So that kind of sucks. But if you're struggling - friends are great.
 
Palum

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Kirun said:
Too RNG.

I need 100% deterministic crafting so I can 100% craft BIS items 2 weeks in and quit the game wondering what it was all for and why the game is so dog shit easy/boring.

Oh, wait. That's D4.

Players think they want a thing and then cry AGAIN when they actually get the thing they think they wanted, because it just waters shit down to meaninglessness.
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I want targeted crafting. Right now it's just a complete slot machine. There's surely a happier middle ground between completely random and completely non-random.
 
Mist

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Palum said:
I want targeted crafting. Right now it's just a complete slot machine. There's surely a happier middle ground between completely random and completely non-random.
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Gambling is very cheap at max level, because you get a lot of gold.

Also, there IS targeted crafting, you just have to utilize the Expedition guys that nobody seems to understand how they work.
 
Palum

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Mist said:
Gambling is very cheap at max level, because you get a lot of gold.

Also, there IS targeted crafting, you just have to utilize the Expedition guys that nobody seems to understand how they work.
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I haven't really gotten into endgame that much yet so only going off leveling so far.
 
Kirun

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Palum said:
I want targeted crafting. Right now it's just a complete slot machine. There's surely a happier middle ground between completely random and completely non-random.
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It's there. Like Mist said, Expedition has aspects of that.

But, one of the best aspects of GGG is that they understand opportunity costs very well. If you heavily invest in X, you aren't really going to do Y very effectively. There's an upside/downside to almost everything that exists in the game.
 
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God, Ultimatum can suck my dick. I really, really don't understand how they took two of the most niche and unpopular mechanics and made them trials.
 
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Khane

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Essences and Omens are the targeted crafting, Expedition is just Rog from PoE1, Mist is being disingenuous about that being targeted crafting.

Essences and Omens are entirely too rare to actually participate in that style of crafting however. And Ritual... in this 1 try mapping system where the layouts all suck for that mechanic AND you get pushed and blocked the entire time... ain't fun. Which is why nobody is really doing it and good Omens essentially don't even exist on trade.
 
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Fucking LOL, up to sort of mid tier maps, now dmg is falling off so log into the trade website (which is AIDS) - found a great xbow, only one that's a real upgrade to what I'm using and... 100 ex. Yeah... gonna just reroll monk now.
 
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Khane

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If you want to see what any of these currencies do/are just go to the currency exchange in game and search

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Khane

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Yea in the game's current state they may as well not even exist. The atlas and mapping system currently suck. In plain English.
 
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Nirgon

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Khane said:
Last Epoch had a lot of potential but I think after they got their full release payday they decided to enjoy the money rather than continue working.

It's going to be a year in February with only 1 real league (cycle) since release. Game is basically already gone and forgotten.
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They've got all kinds of content planned which I think is another run at the streamers picking it up for another attempted round of box sales.

In PoE 1/2 the crafting for SSF being "same as non ssf drops" with completely random orb crafting is just
... lol what.

It basically prevents you from making anything except builds that run purely on yellows and often without any flavor.

It was even a bit rough in LE trying to get certain items, I didn't see one or two of the basic uniques I wanted until like lvl 99
 
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Juvarisx

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Palum said:
Never seen one
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Some are from ritual only, but the actual good ones are so rare they may as well not exist. I was going to post something about how they turned crafting from PoE 1 which was its own game upon itself into something shit, but then I read that Mist saying Rog is deterministic crafting and I just rolled my eyes.

Im not convinced anyone defending this shit has ever done real crafting in PoE 1 or are at endgame in PoE 2 so its just pointless to even bother anymore.

I do NOT want D4 Deterministic Crafting, I do want Targeted Crafting

Learn the fucking difference.
 
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