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Palum

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TBH that stash is what I could earn in a few hours of mapping minus a few outliers that might take a couple of days (who picks up 2k+ augs even in SSF smh) with minimal gear investment and zero rarity. So he was either using a ton of it, doesn't know what he is doing or knows what he is doing and is baiting. The lowest of the low end of mapping T15s is ~30-50 ex hour. With OK set up it's ~1-2 div hour. With great set up 5+ div hour. I'm just talking RAW CURRENCY equivalents with minimal rarity. This assumes you aren't fucking around, can clear efficiently and aren't looting and IDing every trash item that drops. There are a dozen+ of builds capable of this with minimal gear investment which means there are dozens of builds viable in SSF to do so. Yes you can have bad luck for some items, but I imagine a lot of the people saying that aren't doing 8-10 T15s an hour when they play or definitely not doing juiced breaches that drop so much crap that it takes you 15 minutes to loot raw drops. It's self sustaining as well. I have not bought a T15 or precursor tablet since like week 1 and have a quad stash full still.

There are a lot of flaws in this game, but people being disingenuous due to poor play and/or lack of knowledge doesn't help anything.

Now if you want to argue that things should be tuned for the new person or more casual player then sure, but I doubt that is going to happen. Remember most people quit PoE1 before finishing the acts and they didn't give a fuck.

If you want to argue they should put more effort into SSF in general, then hell yeah I'm all for it as it's my favorite mode. But I hate seeing people bait the game experience when you can literally go on twitch and youtube and see builds blasting and making bank including SSF players. What is stopping you/others from doing the same thing?

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In other news I finished the last class/ascendancy to 75+, got all 8 points and was doing T15s. I used molten blast to level and it was horrible. Pretty sure this was the second longest campaign finisher behind my monk. When I could swap to Hammer of the Gods/Stampede it was game changing. Very viable for mapping/low bossing, but definitely not great overall. Just use something braindead like spark while leveling if you too feel the need to meme a melee chrono.

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Now to make more meme builds...

SSF is all luck because crafting is RNG and also based on the currency needed to generally enhance otherwise useful items. Because you have such a lower currency rate by not minmaxing sales throughput (e.g. something worth 5 div is only worth a pittance in gold to SSF char), you are further behind. It sucks donkey dick right now.
 

Chimney

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Yes, I'm aware, but I'm also aware that it doesn't take much to get most classes going into T15s in PoE2. I would know this since I have literally every class in the game at the moment in T15s and the only one I twinked out on trade was my deadeye.

SSF was never easy even with crafting in PoE1. It just made it less painful and beholden to RNG at some points.
 

Tmac

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Yes, I'm aware, but I'm also aware that it doesn't take much to get most classes going into T15s in PoE2. I would know this since I have literally every class in the game at the moment in T15s and the only one I twinked out on trade was my deadeye.

SSF was never easy even with crafting in PoE1. It just made it less painful and beholden to RNG at some points.

You effectively geared your monk without using trade? After playing a monk I assumed the shitty trade website was a core feature.

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Khane

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Chimney is the classic internet nerd cred farmer.
 
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Chimney

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Chimney is the classic internet nerd cred farmer.

I already proved you wrong last time you decided to talk crap about my claims and here you are yappin again.

Half of this forum has played games with me across multiple genres so they could easily call me out if I was bullshitting.
 
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Caeden

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After playing a few hours today being snowed in. I want my fucking convocation back.
 
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Khane

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I already proved you wrong last time you decided to talk crap about my claims and here you are yappin again.

Half of this forum has played games with me across multiple genres so they could easily call me out if I was bullshitting.

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Juvarisx

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TBH that stash is what I could earn in a few hours of mapping minus a few outliers that might take a couple of days (who picks up 2k+ augs even in SSF smh) with minimal gear investment and zero rarity. So he was either using a ton of it, doesn't know what he is doing or knows what he is doing and is baiting. The lowest of the low end of mapping T15s is ~30-50 ex hour. With OK set up it's ~1-2 div hour. With great set up 5+ div hour. I'm just talking RAW CURRENCY equivalents with minimal rarity. This assumes you aren't fucking around, can clear efficiently and aren't looting and IDing every trash item that drops. There are a dozen+ of builds capable of this with minimal gear investment which means there are dozens of builds viable in SSF to do so. Yes you can have bad luck for some items, but I imagine a lot of the people saying that aren't doing 8-10 T15s an hour when they play or definitely not doing juiced breaches that drop so much crap that it takes you 15 minutes to loot raw drops. It's self sustaining as well. I have not bought a T15 or precursor tablet since like week 1 and have a quad stash full still.

There are a lot of flaws in this game, but people being disingenuous due to poor play and/or lack of knowledge doesn't help anything.

Now if you want to argue that things should be tuned for the new person or more casual player then sure, but I doubt that is going to happen. Remember most people quit PoE1 before finishing the acts and they didn't give a fuck.

If you want to argue they should put more effort into SSF in general, then hell yeah I'm all for it as it's my favorite mode. But I hate seeing people bait the game experience when you can literally go on twitch and youtube and see builds blasting and making bank including SSF players. What is stopping you/others from doing the same thing?

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In other news I finished the last class/ascendancy to 75+, got all 8 points and was doing T15s. I used molten blast to level and it was horrible. Pretty sure this was the second longest campaign finisher behind my monk. When I could swap to Hammer of the Gods/Stampede it was game changing. Very viable for mapping/low bossing, but definitely not great overall. Just use something braindead like spark while leveling if you too feel the need to meme a melee chrono.

View attachment 568842

Now to make more meme builds...

That was my very first build out of the gate. Its actually viable for all Pinnacle +4's. There is a dude who put out a big guide for the build, it wasnt really out when I was doing it but watching him update it over the past month, the only thing I def recommend is going Temp Rift and getting good at using it if you are not currently.

It was fun doing something so obviously off meta while everyone else was abusing Stormweavers CoC and whatever else, but its def not the fastest build. If i had the currency I'd try it again with a 1k pdps hammer just to see how fast I could blow up bosses.
 

Penance

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Yes, I'm aware, but I'm also aware that it doesn't take much to get most classes going into T15s in PoE2. I would know this since I have literally every class in the game at the moment in T15s and the only one I twinked out on trade was my deadeye.

SSF was never easy even with crafting in PoE1. It just made it less painful and beholden to RNG at some points.
You are being a disingenuous cock sucker. No way you geared every class to 75+ to T15s SSF. You traded on every single one of them.
 
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Khane

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You are being a disingenuous cock sucker. No way you geared every class to 75+ to T15s SSF. You traded on every single one of them.

Careful bro, he might retort with something clever and witty and not cliche at all.

Like.... "It's not my fault you just suck at video games"
 

Chimney

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You are being a disingenuous cock sucker. No way you geared every class to 75+ to T15s SSF. You traded on every single one of them.

Yeah man, it's literally impossible to make builds where all you do is freeze one mob and the entire screen blows up thanks to heralds. You'd need at least mirror tier gear to do it.


That was my very first build out of the gate. Its actually viable for all Pinnacle +4's. There is a dude who put out a big guide for the build, it wasnt really out when I was doing it but watching him update it over the past month, the only thing I def recommend is going Temp Rift and getting good at using it if you are not currently.

It was fun doing something so obviously off meta while everyone else was abusing Stormweavers CoC and whatever else, but its def not the fastest build. If i had the currency I'd try it again with a 1k pdps hammer just to see how fast I could blow up bosses.

It was definitely fun when it popped off. I am just more interested in testing out campaign -> T15 than investing into completely broken build territory.

You should try out magma barrier if you want to try something else super jank, but with a really strong payoff if you get good at timing your shield blocks. That is how high I could scale it on my titan, but I would need to buy like 20 div gems to go higher and I ain't about that life, but I saw some dude with it in the millions of damage recently and one shotting everything boss wise. With the move speed on block it actually can cook while mapping and blows up full screens.

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Deathwing

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So, you played porcilkeln a bunch of times instead of many uniquely geared builds. I think there's a word for that.
 

Penance

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Yeah man, it's literally impossible to make builds where all you do is freeze one mob and the entire screen blows up thanks to heralds. You'd need at least mirror tier gear to do it.
No where did I mention the cost of a build. Now you're being disingenuous and retarded.
 

Chimney

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So, you played porcilkeln a bunch of times instead of many uniquely geared builds. I think there's a word for that.

Nah I only tried porc on the LA deadeye before I swapped to ice shot since it was more consistent clear for me, but you can cold infuse pretty much every skill so I've done it via stampede, ice strike, ice shot, molten blast, ice shards etc.


No where did I mention the cost of a build. Now you're being disingenuous and retarded.

The point is you don't need good gear to freeze a mob and blow up the screen with heralds currently. Anyone not taking advantage of it while also whining about how hard it is to gear up to in SSF is gimping themselves. Is it good game play balance? No. But it makes everything doable with minimal set up.