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Khane

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Not sure what Im fixing with currency? I gave low cost options in my response. What exactly in my build seems necesasry to make it work from a gear perspective? Mageblood is wholly uneccessary and HH is arguably better for mapping, and costs like 12 div. The wands literally would cost like 5d even if you're unlucky if you arent trying to awakener orb 2 influences. Literally.

If you're barometer of this build is that 15+ million single explosion damage (which should be easily achievable on budget gear) isn't good enough to not need a secondary single target skill I have no idea what to tell you.
 

Deathwing

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You're potentially fixing the single target damage with currency. I haven't run it through what I call budget to make a fair comparison.

That's the "issue", you call 5D a budget, I stop investing into certain slots around 1D. 10s of chaos per slot is budget to me.

Note that issue is quotations, I'm not faulting anyone for what they call budget.


Just to give you a better idea, this is the hack job I did to your build to make it what I call "budget". It's rough, some stuff still needs fixing like flask sustain, resists, and a bit of stats.

To be completely fair, 6.6M DPS without accounting for overlaps is quite good. It's definitely a number I was looking for when considering a build. I don't think I left anything in there that would that heavily fudge the numbers, but who knows. I need a few hours at some point to cook up a proper PoB(for me) from scratch.
 

zombiewizardhawk

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So if a character isn't doing 50 billion dps to ubers on an 8div or less total budget then it's a trash build that just gets carried by gear? So... every build in the game basically? I'm also confused why multiple div watchers eyes/stormshrouds etc are fine but going over "10s of chaos" on gear somehow ruins a builds budget?
 

Khane

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You're doing that "Deathwing" thing where you create these ridiculous requirements for a build and then use weird logic leaps to write it off.

For instance. Using currency to buy powerful gear 2 months into a league is not "fixing a problem with currency", it's quite literally the definition of upgrading your character. A core tenet of ARPGs since Diablo 2. 1D per slot? Are you serious man? Come on now...

EDIT: Also, if you're unwilling to spend 5D on a WEAPON slot for an ATTACK skill why are you even playing this game?
 
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Deathwing

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I don't think it's ridiculous to want to normalize a build so as to make comparison easier. Without it, you're left wasting tens of hours leveling through the campaign, buying gear from a dying market, leveling through maps, just to make the same judgment call you *might* be able to make in PoB. Admittedly, a lot cannot be represented in PoB. But I think single target benchmarks are one of the easier things to gauge.

As for your example, what I try to avoid is a build at a high entry point, liking it, and then wanting to play it at a lower entry point next league and being disappointed. "Fixing with currency" can give a skewed perspective on a build.

And yes, ~1D per slot. There's always exceptions, especially when it comes to functionality. This game is not interesting enough to play(as in actually play, grind maps) to justify going beyond that. I know it's a core tenet of the genre. Doesn't justify it being boring.

See previous paragraph on the 5D weapon question. Very few builds fundamentally, or even incrementally, change with that type of "upgrade". It's just more betterer. It can be an interesting more better, they've certainly done a better job at hiding it than Diablo 4. But it can also be very frustrating as their complexity inherently encourages gear lock. All the same, it's still just more betterer and if it's not going to change how your build plays, 5D can be a significant purchase.

I farmed up a 100D mageblood last league because the QoL was worth it. You're never going to see me spending 2D on a multimod craft just so I can toss that shit in the recombinator.
 

Khane

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Well, you can continue to admonish upgrading a character while you instead play PoB to watch numbers in a simulator get "betterer". I'll be in the game enjoying actually playing it and using the digital currency that literally disappears at each reset to have some fun now.
 

Borzak

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Bought a headhunter to play around with. I don't do a lot of bossing so we shall see heard it works well mapping.

I know I would have never dicked with selling all my stuff with whispers to get enough to buy anything before the currency market.
 

Yaamean

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What is the correct version of POB to use? Only asking because I used pob.cool from my work mac, and my character shows different dps by a decent margin. Just wondering if maybe I have an older version installed at home on my PC.
 

Penance

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Pob fork community. Don't know if they have it for Mac. But that is the most up to date
 

zombiewizardhawk

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I'm done with the league but still have one of my magebloods left that I didn't poof in a temple if someone wants to use it who has never used one before or something. Would prefer it goes to someone who will use/enjoy it than someone who's just going to sell it.
 

GhenghisKhan

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I'm done with the league but still have one of my magebloods left that I didn't poof in a temple if someone wants to use it who has never used one before or something. Would prefer it goes to someone who will use/enjoy it than someone who's just going to sell it.
I'll take any scraps you dont need. Started late and trying to grind some currency. MB doesnt really fit my build though.
 

Borzak

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Anyone have a slayer build that is not uber expensive? I have a 85ish lvl slayer I'm going to remap because it didn't work out at all. Stripped all his gear and would just put the points back in from the ground up.

Edit - made a cyclone. With crap gear I had laying around it was better than what I had spent currency one.
 
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zombiewizardhawk

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I get off work at like 9-10pm EST tonight so i'll log in then and throw most of my better stuff in some of the guild stash tabs. Got some pretty good EE trickster gear, some not so good but still got the job done as league starter archmage heiro gear, and a couple random things like the staff I made, a pretty good attack wand I vaal'd etc.
 

Borzak

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Just threw what I had on my cyclone build. Good damage cause most of it had phys and such. Need to redo my resist. Almost 200 in lightning, well above what I needed in everyhing by a lot. 50+ chaos.
 

Slaanesh69

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Welp, finally hit 100 in this game, and finally killed Maven. Even killed The Feared, although I will be truthful with you guys and admit I did it unmodified. Now I am banging off achievements; haven't run any T17s yet, so I have only seen 1 frag for the Ubers. Not sure I have the patience to do those for the 40. I am at 35; Those Arduous Atlas and Inciting Invitations are quite the grind, but I had lots of frags and Breachstones saved up so it is moving along. I am running T16 mappers right now to get Sasan to pop - I cannot do the Black Knight without getting hit by that damn laser!