Kaines
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Nah, my point was that even people who are responsible for sending people into space can have contractors that fuck things up when dealing with metric vs imperial measurements.
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Quickly we need to know how many feet per second are 1.45632 miles per hour!! stat, before the rocket explodes!!!
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Kaines
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In the contractor's defense, it was probably written in the contract or some person delegated as CoTR who had no business being a technical representative (education, skill and experience wise) demanded something as idiotic of doing calculations with our lovely measurements.
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I'm guessing that is along the lines of what Romans said when defending roman numerals.
Which I think is actually a good comparison, just going the other way. There is just no reason not to use the metric system. Easier to do calculations, easier to teach, etc etc.
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No offense bro, but if you were good at math you'd know that though the calculations are trivial, in most cases you won't be able to do them in your head even IF you know the conversion values. By definition, anything that is easier which also provides zero loss of functionality is better.
Let me unpack this for you with two examples:
1) A feather is dropped on the moon from a height of 1.40 Kilometers. The acceleration of gravity on the moon is 1.67 M/s2. Determine the time for the feather to fall to the surface of the moon
2) A feather is dropped on the moon from a height of 203.2 fathoms. The acceleration of gravity on the moon is 1.2 yards/s2. Determine the time for the feather to fall to the surface of the moon
In example 1, you can convert 1.4KM to Meters simply by shifting the decimal point three places, them plug both values into your formula
In example 2, you will need to convert fathoms to meters (203.2 x 1.8288) and convert yards to meters (1.2 X .9144) then plug both values into your formula
You'll end up with the same answer in both cases, but why bother with the extra work and obscure conversion values when all conversion in metric is just a matter of shifting decimal places?
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Yeah but Wombat,tad10Hoss is so good at math, that he can do all that just as fast as any metric user can.
Hoss can plow fields using wooden plows and oxen just as fast as he can with a steel tractor.
Hoss can plow fields using wooden plows and oxen just as fast as he can with a steel tractor.
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You lead an interesting life my friend that you need to do calculations about how fast a feather falls on the moon in your head. And by interesting I mean probably not interesting.
It's OK if you're bad at math dude. Just say so and I'll agree metric is better for you.
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Yeah, let's just get rid of all post secondary science courses altogether since 99% of the problems you're asked to solve through years of Uni won't be used in real life. Actually, let's just get rid of STEM entirely because in Hoss' shitkicker universe the only scientific measurement that is useful is how many gallons are needed for an under trailer septic tank.
But yeah, we can go with the redneck telling the guy with the Chemistry degree that he's bad at math.
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Big difference between doing a calculation and having to do a calculation in your head. I'm an engineer. Engineer >> chemist when it comes to math. Out of curiosity, what math is required for chemistry? It's an honest question, not trying to imply chemists don't use math. Just in the chemistry classes I took, there wasn't a lot of complicated math.
Len, when have I ever decried science? Link pls.
Len, when have I ever decried science? Link pls.
Frenzied Wombat
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If you're an engineer then you should understand better than anybody else that metric is superior to imperial, if only for the simple reason that physics formulas use metric values. How you can mock the "practicality" of a hypothetical feather dropping on the moon problem which should resemble hundreds of similar questions you should have had to answer throughout an engineering degree is beyond me.
You need to take up to Calculus III to do an undergrad in chem (it's a pre-req for Quantum and Physical Chemistry III and beyond), as well as taking quantum mechanics and a slew of physical chemistry courses which is all advanced math. Also analytical chemistry classes to a lesser degree. The only chemistry classes that don't involve heavy math are biochemistry and organic chemistry. Never saw an imperial measurement used in any of my textbooks, ever.
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You continue to misunderstand (is it on purpose). I mock the necessity of doing that calculation in your head. Not mocking some random theoretical math question at all.
Metric is not superior to people who grew with and understand imperial measurements. I know how long feet and inches are. If something gives me a measurement that a thing is 2 feet away from another thing and it's 3 inches in diameter, I don't need to do any conversions to find it. If that's given as .66666 meters and 8 cm, I do. The math itself is not a problem, the problem is using measurements everyone isn't familiar with. The people who build my stuff are americans, the people I sell my stuff to are americans and it makes no sense to require everyone to use unfamiliar units.
Metric can be superior to people who grew up using it, that's fine and understandable. But I maintain that the easier math argument is hollow. In my experience people who are bad at math still can't handle the math when it's metric.
Metric is not superior to people who grew with and understand imperial measurements. I know how long feet and inches are. If something gives me a measurement that a thing is 2 feet away from another thing and it's 3 inches in diameter, I don't need to do any conversions to find it. If that's given as .66666 meters and 8 cm, I do. The math itself is not a problem, the problem is using measurements everyone isn't familiar with. The people who build my stuff are americans, the people I sell my stuff to are americans and it makes no sense to require everyone to use unfamiliar units.
Metric can be superior to people who grew up using it, that's fine and understandable. But I maintain that the easier math argument is hollow. In my experience people who are bad at math still can't handle the math when it's metric.
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Need to change that picture to "walked on the moon" or something because it's currently not accurate.
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Why?
Need to change that picture to "walked on the moon" or something because it's currently not accurate.
Of the twelve human beings who have ever walked on the moon, how many were NOT Americans?