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Sentagur

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OK cool. So you flat out can't handle it if the units you're given are imperial. For the record, it's just as easy for me if someone were to give me metric units. Maybe slightly more difficult because I would have to look up the conversion factor. But like I said earlier, life is an open book test where you can use any calculator you want.

Also, people who are bad at math (PWABAM) will get that conversion from meters to kilometers wrong distressingly often. Cause moving decimal points can be hard too. Wouldn't have surprised me at all if someone had answered 1.459.

But we're not arguing about this anymore. There's no use in either of us trying to convince the other one.
The point is if someone told you to add 300m to 1.456KM and the end result has to be in imperial units would you convert them first and then add or would you just add them up and then convert the end result?
 

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How does the imperial system handle the conversion of unicorn farts to leprechaun semen?
The imperial system actually has a unit for unicorn farts. The Foe. Leprechaun semen is measured in gallons just like human semen. So as you can see, it's a straight forward conversion.
 

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There's no use in either of us trying to convince the other one.
You have said this a few times. That is only true if the people in the argument are basing their beliefs on blind faith. The metric system is just superior by the evidence. Hell, you even admitted it by using the argument of "its harder, so it makes people that use it better at math!". Then you compounded it by trying to accuse the people on the other side of being bad at math.

Abandon your faith and think critically. Then again, you were a Cruz supporter. Might be better for you to spend your time thinking critically about politics first.
 

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I'm still a cruz supporter. Now I'm going to get myself elected to the national convention and make it happen.

And actually it was someone elses point that it's harder and makes you better at math. I may have added more evidence to that argument because it's fun. I think there are PWABAM and people who are good at it. PWABAM need a simpler system. I mean, if you want to let the limitations of PWABAM dictate your mode of scientific study, be my guest. People who are good at math can convert. My argument is and always has been that imperial units are easier to work with and easier to understand in the real world. Easier to estimate but, contrary to zzyzyzyzyyxyxyxyzyz's argument (lol), no less precise when you need precision.
 

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My argument is and always has been that imperial units are easier to work with and easier to understand in the real world.
This is a really bad argument and it makes you look like a fool. They are only easier for you because you were raised with them and apparently aren't smart enough to convert and get used to metric. I bet you use the same logic about how your biblical beliefs are just obviously better than other religions, without being smart enough to understand that it only feels more "right" to you because you are used to the silliness in your own religion and not the others.

There is just simply nothing that makes the units more intuitively easier to understand. If you presented both imperial and metric to anyone using a 3rd system and asked them to judge, the metric system would win everytime.
 

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Lets try a different way , if someone tells you to downscale 3.2 leagues down all of the smaller imperial units (->miles->furlongs->chains->yard->feet->inches and so on) that would be simpler and easier to work with and understand than doing the same to 3.2km in metric units?
 

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...->miles->furlongs->chains->yard->feet->inchesand so on...
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Imperial teaches fractions better, Metric teaches a general tens based system that is easier to understand.

Simple math metric is better, more advanced math concepts imperial is better, high end math back to metric for keeping very complex things simpler when ever possible.
 

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At what point do "advanced math concepts" make Imperial better? Considering imperial conversions are just multiplication and division problems, how does that benefit "advanced math"?

Also, what does imperial have to do with fractions? Fractions are neither imperial or metric..
 

Siddar

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At what point do "advanced math concepts" make Imperial better? Considering imperial conversions are just multiplication and division problems, how does that benefit "advanced math"?

Also, what does imperial have to do with fractions? Fractions are neither imperial or metric..
It teaches the concepts of a non tens based system better then metric does and it teaches it very early. That tens based system is the main feature of metric that focus is both its strength and its weakness. Imperial is much less focused upon a tens based system.
 

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It teaches the concepts of a non tens based system better then metric does and it teaches it very early. That tens based system is the main feature of metric while imperial is not much less focused upon a tens based system.
What the fuck, nobody learns any "non tens based system" with imperial units, we just multiply and divide and estimate.
 

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What the fuck, nobody learns any "non tens based system" with imperial units, we just multiply and divide and estimate.
Really? 12 inches to a foot, 16 ounces to a pound, 4 litters to a gallon basically the entire imperial measurement system is non tens based. You of course will also learn the tens based system in addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
 

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Really? 12 inches to a foot, 16 ounces to a pound, 4 litters to a gallon basically the entire imperial measurement system is non tens based. You of course will also learn the tens based system in addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but how are those non tens based systems? They're just retarded made up numbers to get to the next unit. I thought you were referring to like, binary, octal, hex number systems...
 

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This is a really bad argument and it makes you look like a fool. They are only easier for you because you were raised with them and apparently aren't smart enough to convert and get used to metric. I bet you use the same logic about how your biblical beliefs are just obviously better than other religions, without being smart enough to understand that it only feels more "right" to you because you are used to the silliness in your own religion and not the others.

There is just simply nothing that makes the units more intuitively easier to understand. If you presented both imperial and metric to anyone using a 3rd system and asked them to judge, the metric system would win everytime.
lol u say my argument is bad then type all this. I C wut U did thar.

What the fuck, nobody learns any "non tens based system" with imperial units, we just multiply and divide and estimate.
In a manner of speaking, 12 inches in a foot is a base 12 system. 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour is a base 60 system. Etc etc etc. I think that's what he's talking about. I see them as fractions personally, but I am aware that some people handle those better thinking of them as number base systems.
 

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In a manner of speaking, 12 inches in a foot is a base 12 system. 60 seconds in a minute and 60 minutes in an hour is a base 60 system. Etc etc etc. I think that's what he's talking about. I see them as fractions personally, but I am aware that some people handle those better thinking of them as number base systems.
Yea I see them as fractions or percents of the whole too, maybe thats why I misread that... I've never heard of anybody teaching inches/feet as like a base 12 system.
 

Siddar

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I should have made myself more clear. I'm talking about the very basic concept of a non ten based systems, Those measurements start out as non ten based but then join the ten based system shortly after the base unit. They ease the path for understanding fully non tens based systems later on.
 

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When I saw it, it was called clock math, or clock arithmetic. Took me a bit to realize they were basically teaching number base systems. The material I saw was just the beginning so I can't swear they ever get to feet/inches. I just know that the person telling me about it was very bad at math in high school (this is a college class) and was getting clock math with no problem. People learn differently.
 

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Imperial doesn't use any system, it uses some random number conversions. If i twas a 12 base system all the units would be multiples of 12 of each other which they are NOT.
And imperial doesn't teach fractions, it makes you use fractions as its only way to work with those units without ending up with weird numbers. Using Fractions teaches you how to handle fractions and it has nothing to do with imperial or metric units.
You are just more comfortable with imperial units because you were though how to use them in school at an early age. It has nothing to do with it being a simpler/better system.