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Obtenor_sl

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Correct.

HPV, just like HIV has different strains, HPV has dozens of strains, warts in your hands is one, skin is another, face/neck another, penis another, anus is another; and they're linked to cancers, I have a higher chance of getting anal cancer from the HPV strain.
 

Seananigans

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Yes. Gonorrhea can live in the throat and be asymptomatic (Gonorrhea Symptoms in the Mouth STD Panels Center) it really sucks because when you're blowing someone you don't really want to be tasting latex.



Pretty much, I was raised in South America, in a very Catholic setting (Think Opus Dei) and the thought of being 'caught' with anything gay was complete HORROR for me, so getting condoms and then having people talk about me getting condoms (small town) or getting caught drove me to have unprotected, quickie, hidden sex. Thankfully I wasn't that much of a whore and I didn't catch something like HIV, but I did get HPV which also stays with you for life.

One of my best friends did catch HIV and moved to Canada, the Canadian government granted him asylum due to the religious prosecution he faced in my home country (venezuela), he wrote several op-ed pieces on a local newspaper calling on the church hypocrisy, so he got fired and was harassed. Homophobia is real and bad everywhere.
I was under the impression HPV eventually got killed off in most/all people naturally? (And the link someone posted up there seems to confirm that).

Also, the term "homophobia" really rustles my jimmies, and I wish eternal damnation upon the person who coined it. Homosexuals have probably instilled fear in roughly 0.00000% of people since the dawn of time, and/or the first social awareness of homosexuality. I don't mention this because I have any kind of irrational hate for you because of your sexual orientation, quite the opposite. But I certainly do believe I have the right to find homosexual "culture" (if that term can even be used) to be distasteful, just as I believe you have the right to find hetero "culture" distasteful.

/endPSA

Anyhoo, thanks for your contribution to the thread, I respect you (and Kuriin, where he does) for sharing.
 

Obtenor_sl

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I was under the impression HPV eventually got killed off in most/all people naturally? (And the link someone posted up there seems to confirm that).

Also, the term "homophobia" really rustles my jimmies, and I wish eternal damnation upon the person who coined it. Homosexuals have probably instilled fear in roughly 0.00000% of people since the dawn of time, and/or the first social awareness of homosexuality. I don't mention this because I have any kind of irrational hate for you because of your sexual orientation, quite the opposite. But I certainly do believe I have the right to find homosexual "culture" (if that term can even be used) to be distasteful, just as I believe you have the right to find hetero "culture" distasteful.

/endPSA

Anyhoo, thanks for your contribution to the thread, I respect you (and Kuriin, where he does) for sharing.
Why would I find hetero 'culture' distasteful? In fact, why would I generalize? I'm no gay 'queenie' who's flamboyant (and it's fine for those who are) I'm a geeky nerd who also plays some sports and if I don't tell you I'm gay you wouldn't know. I'm as 'regular' as it could be. So don't generalize, which part of 'gay culture' do you abhor?
 

Seananigans

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I never said I abhorred it, I said I believe I have the right to do so, and I believe you have the right to do so as well. I was keeping in theme with my dislike of the term "homophobia," because that's typically the go-to term if anyone expresses their displeasure.

Same would go for "racism" with regard to any displeasure expressed toward extra-racial cultures, and so on.
 

Alex

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So you just don't like being called what you are? Should we find a more politically correct word for those to call you since they offend you?
 

Khane

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Sounds like Seananigans doesn't understand that homophobes DO have a crippling fear of gays. They are so afraid of the idea of homosexuality they go to crazy extremes to avoid them and get aggressive and violent as a way to pre-empt getting fucked in the ass when they are near a gay man, because that's what all gay men do to every man they come across. But mostly they are just afraid of all the gay feelings they constantly have.

You do make one decent point. Just because you don't like it when a flamboyant gay man wears overly provocative clothing in public doesn't make you a homophobe. Just like not wanting to see two gay people kissing doesn't make you a homophobe automatically. It could be that you just don't like to see any couples, gay or straight, make out right in front of you.
 

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Bert Kreischer is an awesome comedian. He says he's not homophobic, but homochondriac. He's afraid that he's going to like it so much, that he'll swap teams.

I only brought this up because I was listening to him on Joe Rogan Experience yesterday, and he had that conversation.
 

Dabamf_sl

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I'm curious what will happen to male sexuality over the next 50 years. There is heaps of evidence that women's sexuality is quite fluid, in which there's a gay-straight spectrum and everyone falls somewhere and many women move along the spectrum throughout their lives. Men are more all or nothing than women, but it's also way more socially acceptable for women to exist in between. I can see it changing for men over time as homophobia diminishes.
 

Antarius

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I'm curious what will happen to male sexuality over the next 50 years. There is heaps of evidence that women's sexuality is quite fluid, in which there's a gay-straight spectrum and everyone falls somewhere and many women move along the spectrum throughout their lives. Men are more all or nothing than women, but it's also way more socially acceptable for women to exist in between. I can see it changing for men over time as homophobia diminishes.
Look at the responses I got in this forum when I posted my experience experimenting for the other team, shit aint changing anytime soon.
 

Obtenor_sl

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Sorry for not answering, I was out on vacation.

I don't think you 'hate' gays or are a homophobe, and the reason you find flamboyant gays who wear thongs at pride so disgusting is because IT IS tacky.

However, to each its own, they DON'T affect me in anyway or form so I just ignore them, it makes them happy so why would I piss on their parade?
 

Seananigans

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Ah.

It's not just the over-done flambuoyant stuff. It's the fact that (again I use quotes because I'm not evensureit's actually a thing, any more than short people have a culture) "gay culture" has seeped into my world at every turn. I can't watch a TV show, movie, or play a game without a gay in it, with significant time spent dealing with his/her gayness. THAT is what frustrates me. Catering to the vast minority at the expense of the vast majority. And yet I have a couple of fairly solid acquaintances who are gay, and I have never had an issue liking them. In fact, I can't think of a single gay person I've met IRL that I've immediately disliked, other than one drunk asshat who wouldn't stop offering to blow me at a bar one evening.

It's almost the entire reason I stopped watching Modern Family (the other reason being that shrieking hag married to Al Bundy), a show I legitimately enjoyed because of the other parts of it.

But again, simply for having an opinion like this I can and will be labeled a "homophobe," which carries significant social stigma (possibly nearing "racist" levels nowadays), as if I don't have the right to dislike something. To say nothing of the aforementioned fact that it's a completely retarded misnomer, and nowhere in the history of the world has a gay person inspired fear in a heterosexual person. I'm sure most people would argue that it doesn't matter, but I'm a believer in preserving the integrity of language.


-edit- The ironic part here (or is it? I can never remember) is that your example, a gay pride parade, is at the bottom of my dislike list here, because I've never once in my life encountered one, just as I've never watched an episode of "Queer Eye", or "L Word" or whatever else. Because that's specifically designated for "gay culture." I simply don't engage in it, and everything is fine. Again, it's when it's shoved into my world constantly at every turn that I get my jimmies all rustled.
 

Alex

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Ah.

It's not just the over-done flambuoyant stuff. It's the fact that (again I use quotes because I'm not evensureit's actually a thing, any more than short people have a culture) "gay culture" has seeped into my world at every turn. I can't watch a TV show, movie, or play a game without a gay in it, with significant time spent dealing with his/her gayness. THAT is what frustrates me. Catering to the vast minority at theexpense of the vast majority. And yet I have a couple of fairly solid acquaintances who are gay, and I have never had an issue liking them. In fact, I can't think of a single gay person I've met IRL that I've immediately disliked, other than one drunk asshat who wouldn't stop offering to blow me at a bar one evening.

It's almost the entire reason I stopped watching Modern Family (the other reason being that shrieking hag married to Al Bundy), a show I legitimately enjoyed because of the other parts of it.

But again, simply for having an opinion like this I can and will be labeled a "homophobe," which carries significant social stigma (possibly nearing "racist" levels nowadays), as if I don't have the right to dislike something. To say nothing of the aforementioned fact that it's a completely retarded misnomer, andnowhere in the history of the world has a gay person inspired fear in a heterosexual person. I'm sure most people would argue that it doesn't matter, but I'm a believer in preserving the integrity of language.


-edit- The ironic part here (or is it? I can never remember) is that your example, a gay pride parade, is at the bottom of my dislike list here, because I've never once in my life encountered one, just as I've never watched an episode of "Queer Eye", or "L Word" or whatever else. Because that's specifically designated for "gay culture." I simply don't engage in it, and everything is fine. Again, it's when it's shoved into my world constantly at every turn that I get my jimmies all rustled.
Dude. You actually kind of hate gay people.
 

Obtenor_sl

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Dude. You actually kind of hate gay people.
I was going to say something akin to this.

In your example, of 'gayness' in culture all around you, it's because you don't notice the 'not-gay' culture around you, which is of course much much more prevalent, TV evolves all the time, for example, 'I love lucy' had no gay characters (unheard of during that time) and Desi and Lucy didn't even shared a bed (they had two beds, one for each) because around that time implying or showing 'sex' was a big no no. Of course that evolved.

To this date, people still lose their shit when they see interracial couples on TV, imagine how it was a big NO NO 30 years ago to even 'suggest' this. Gay culture has entered 'mainstream' media because Gay men and women are EVERYWHERE in real life as well, just like married couples sleep in the same bed and interracial couples exist. You find it 'odd' and it stands out because it's not the 'norm' (even though homosexuality has always happened and it happens in nature all the time), this 'oddity' is used nowadays by writers/producers because it allows complex and 'weird' storylines that have not been tried before.

In sum, you are looking at the 'gay' in a tv show while missing the 12 other straight people in it. In the case of Modern Family the main cast has 2 gay characters vs 8 straight characters (so 20%), 1 in at least 10 americans is gay with other 2 identifying as bisexual (in some level), in the case of 'Modern Family' it would be expected that out of 10 characters, 1 would be gay.

My advice? don't be so 'disgusted' by the gay storylines or presence in the media; did you know that out of say 20-30 hip-hop artists only one identifies itself as gay? (Frank Ocean) and that NONE of major 'pop' and 'rock' stars identify as gay? (I'm not counting 'gaga' saying 'i might have kissed a girl before').

TL;DR You complain that media/entertainment has been taken over by gays/ gay storylines, but it's because a gay character stands out as an 'oddity' in a sea of hetero 'normalncy'
 

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That 10% number isn't correct. It is at most 5% and probably closer to 2%.

The 10% comes from the combination of people not reading Kinsey correctly and the original Kinsey reports having errors in methodology. Better surveys have been done in the intervening 60 years.

Most recent US survey has it at 3.8% of the population identifying as LGBT. Nowhere close to 1-in-10.