Red Pill Thread 2.0: Neckbeard Revenge

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Eidal

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No, I'm a 6 in terms of looks, slowly improving via eating healthier and working out daily. I figure if I can get down to 10% bodyfat I could be up at a 7 in terms of physical attractiveness, which is one of the most important factors in dating, my face isn't "bad" but it's asymmetrical, but the fact that I'm fat is the bigger problem. I don't shave daily, I grow a pretty nice beard and I keep it trimmed. I am in the top 10% of wage earners in this country, which helps me attract women, but I don't have very many friends which hurts.

I've gone for and fucked everything between a 3 and a 9. I've slept with over 75 women at this point, I don't know the exact number, I don't really care. I was a virgin until I was 26. I'm 32 now. My longest relationship was 16 months, I was faithful for "most" of it. She got pregnant despite being "on the pill", I consider it a bullet dodged.
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Thanks for answering. My wife says if you dropped bf down a bit more, shaved, and put a nice suit/outfit on, then you'd easily be 8/9. People have far more control over their attractiveness level than they think. Men can "cheat up" a fair bit by their dress and accessories, primarily because most doods are slobs who set the bar so low.

The virgin to 26 is indicative of social issues to me, as is your lack of friends. Any self-analysis on why?
 

Antarius

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And what's worse, if they try the red pill bullshit and fail they have a chance of becoming completely psychotic like that kid a few months back who killed all those women then turned the gun on himself. Go read the /r/redpill forum some time. It's an awful cesspool of losers.
I've said it before in this thread, but that kid was anti red-pill. He regularly posted anti red pill rhetoric and how PUA was a scam and how none of it worked, literally he was a member and poster on a forum dedicated to pua haters called puahate.com... kind of like how the majority of the people in this thread are attacking Dumar. He was the ultimate blue-pill white knight.

If you are attacking Dumar, or attacking me (Because I've posted to /trpgame, /thanktrp, and /theredpill with front page posts), just realize that you're taking the exact same stance that the psychopathic killer took in the weeks prior to his rampage.



On a completely unrelated note, she's been posted a few times before on this forum, entertaining videos:
Look out! Its a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!11! - YouTube
 

Khane

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I've said it before in this thread, but that kid was anti red-pill. He regularly posted anti red pill rhetoric and how PUA was a scam and how none of it worked, literally he was a member and poster on a forum dedicated to pua haters called puahate.com... kind of like how the majority of the people in this thread are attacking Dumar. He was the ultimate blue-pill white knight.

If you are attacking Dumar, or attacking me (Because I've posted to /trpgame, /thanktrp, and /theredpill with front page posts), just realize that you're taking the exact same stance that the psychopathic killer took in the weeks prior to his rampage.



On a completely unrelated note, she's been posted a few times before on this forum, entertaining videos:
Look out! Its a Nice Guy! DESTROY HIM!!11! - YouTube
He posted that PUA was a scam and hated on it because he tried it and failed. Which was exactly my point.
 

Antarius

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The virgin to 26 is indicative of social issues to me, as is your lack of friends. Any self-analysis on why?
Sure, at a certain point I just stopped trying to make friends. I just decided to stay at home and focus on the things that I enjoy doing. When I'm in a relationship, I tend to spend a lot of time with my significant other, in essence turning them into my best friend. Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. I moved 5 different times in a 2 year period when I was 24, and after that I kind of just gave up intentionally meeting people anymore, I never had a large social circle, usually just 4-5 "good friends" at any given time (elementary school, high school, followed by military, followed by restaurant work was all the same, a small group of close friends that hung out with several times a week). I'm not "anti-social" but the people I work with now, do not share the same interests I do literally 90% are married with kids, a few play video games, but none of them hardcore, I am considered a "nerd" and outsider because I have no interest in sports (golf or fantasy football are the big 2). I have many more "acquaintances", than I ever had before just not anyone that I hang out with regularly.

Thanks, yes, I have worn a suit a few times before, and I think I could have been considered an 8, possibly. It is a significant amount of extra effort to wear a suit daily though, and would be VERY frowned upon if I wore one to work (our union fought very hard to get the dress code to the point where we could wear jeans, t-shirts, and shorts, only management wears anything beyond that, and I'm not interested in fitting in with that despised group of people.

But no, I will never be considered a 9, ever, no matter how well groomed and fit I look, because of the height. That's ok, I make up for it in other areas of my life that is still attractive to women.
 

Antarius

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age 15
Toxic is the word that describes my first day of Tenth Grade at Taft High School. It was a toxic
nightmare. Every single second of it was agony. I continued to beg my parents to not make me go, but it
was to no avail. My father drove me there, and I didn't want to get out of his car. He almost had to drag
me out. I somehow found the will to put one foot in front of the other and walk towards that awful, ugly
front building.
The first week of Taft was living hell. I was bullied several times, even though I didn't know anyone
there. After being so used to wearing a polo shirt with khaki pants as a school uniform at private
schools, I continued to dress like that even after leaving Crespi. I didn't give any thought to how nerdy I
looked. I was too withdrawn, like a turtle tucked into his shell. I was still in the process of going through
puberty at the time, so I still looked and sounded like a ten-year-old. Such a persona attracted zero
attention from girls, of course, but it did attract bullies like moths to a flame.
I was completely and utterly alone. No one knew me or extended a hand to help me. I was an
innocent, scared little boy trapped in a jungle full of malicious predators, and I was shown no mercy.
Some boys randomly pushed me against the lockers as they walked past me in the hall. One boy who
was tall and had blonde hair called me a "loser", right in front of his girlfriends. Yes, he had girls with
him. Pretty girls. And they didn't seem to mind that he was such an evil bastard. In fact, I bet they liked
him for it. This is how girls are, and I was starting to realize it. This was what truly opened my eyes to
how brutal the world is. The most meanest and depraved of men come out on top, and women flock to
these men. Their evil acts are rewarded by women; while the good, decent men are laughed at. It is sick,
twisted, and wrong in every way. I hated the girls even more than the bullies because of this. The sheer
cruelty of the world around me was so intense that I will never recover from the mental scars. Any
experience I ever had before never traumatized me as much as this.
He was pretty fucked up long before the PUA movement had even started. He didn't even find PUAhate until spring of 2013, which is after he had already purchased his first gun with plans on using it. He latched onto PUAhate because it echoed the feelings he had already established, the hatred of women.

I mean, I skimmed through most of his manifesto... he is CLASSIC blue-pill... he thought that if he became rich, and did favors for women, women would flock to him and his wealth. He thought his material possessions would cause vagina tingles, but that's not the way it works. If he had listened to the red pill instead of puahate, maybe he wouldn't have gone crazy.

My hatred and rage towards all women festered inside me like a plague. Their very existence is the
cause of all of my torture, pain and suffering throughout my life. My life turned into a living hell after I
started desiring them when I hit puberty. I desire them intensely, but I could never have them. I could
never have the experience of holding hands with a beautiful girl and walking on a moonlit beach, I could
never embrace a girlfriend and feel her warmth and love, I could never have passionate sex with a girl
and drift off to sleep with her sexy body beside me. Women deemed me unworthy of having them, and
so they deprived me of an enjoyable youth, while giving their love and sex to other boys. In all of those
years I suffered a life of sexual starvation and unfulfilled desires. I will never get those years back. My
life has been wasted, all because women hate me so much.
All I had ever wanted was to love women, but their behavior has only earned my hatred. I want to
have sex with them, and make them feel good, but they would be disgusted at the prospect. They have
no sexual attraction towards me. It is such an injustice, and I vehemently questioned why things had to
be this way. Why do women behave like vicious, stupid, cruel animals who take delight in my suffering
and starvation? Why do they have a perverted sexual attraction for the most brutish of men instead of
gentlemen of intelligence?
The red pill is the opposite of what he believed. It teaches men that to get what he wanted, you need to behave the exact opposite of the way that Elliot Rodgers behaved, and you'll get the results that were denied him.
 

Jackie Treehorn

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Let's break this down quite simply:

Any man who is worth a shit.

Any man who will ever be worth a shit.

Is not spending his time reading about systems on how to pick up women written by and for neckbeards and spergs.

I'd still love to see what Dumar looks like from the neck down, but he's too much of a coward to post it.
 

Antarius

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Why Are So Many Professional Millennial Women Unable To Find Dateable Men? - Forbes

Unfortunately these assumptions bump up against the growing inequality between the two genders. Millennial women have taken it for granted that they will pair up with equal partners. But increasingly, there aren't enough of these men to go around. Women now outnumber men on college campuses, and single, childless women out earn their male counterparts.
Oops, feminism is great, except when it sucks.

Romance hasn't been entirely sidelined, but we don't waste our time trying to cultivate a relationship unless someone is really amazing.
In other words, fucking hot guys is fine, but we can't tie him down because he's also fucking 4 other women.
 

Dumar_sl

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He posted that PUA was a scam and hated on it because he tried it and failed. Which was exactly my point.
He did not. If you read about him, he never took to heart or implemented RP or even PUA advice. He always expected women to come to him.

You queers over analyze simple things. Grow up, and learn to communicate.
Lesscommunication is usually better than more.

I'd still love to see what Dumar looks like from the neck down, but he's too much of a coward to post it.
I'm not fat. I do cardio but don't lift (too much work), 5'7"

These discussions are much better, shows people are actually reflecting upon ideas. not accusing me of being a whale and owning a fedora.
 

Vaclav

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Antarius: You need more confidence, bro. I'll try to find a pic of my (adopted, no shared genes) bro when I get home to show you that you're reasonably close to a guy who's clearly a 8+ - landed a 10 wife who's around 15 years younger, etc does suit modeling for wedding rental places on the side, etc.

You've clearly got a huge unfounded confidence problem and probably a bit too much introspection over trying to address shared problems with all involved parties.

Now that said, when you decide to settle down, my opinion to building the strongest relationship is to find someone with flaws of similar severity to your own so you both will show progress together. I felt like a 3 or so when I got involved with the wife (probably mostly in my head though, as I've learned more I've found lots of old dating hopes would've been answered Yes if I'd have had the balls back the only one would've said No - and this was before I was even aware inheritance was going to be coming in the future so not money related) and looking back the wife probably would have been a 4 tops back then, bad walk and heavy being the biggest issues as well as psych stuff. (all from some abuse from a previous relationship - was skinny and walked normal before he put her in a wheelchair for 2-3 yrs)

I've improved to a 6 or 7 over the years in my own opinion now (vs my old perceived 3, my problems were largely confidence and thinking my genetic flaws were a real detriment to most - in reality, only a few people care, I won't be a 9/10 but that isn't necessary anyhow) and so has she - psych stuff under control as much as any woman does and about halfway to being normal weightanyhow. And she shares a very youthful appearance like me, we're both around 40, most new acquaintances think we're in our mid20s.

TL;DR You're a great looking dude and just need more confidence. Whatever flaws you think you have physically aren't as apparent as you think, trust me. Learn to accept yourself.
 

Dumar_sl

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It's never been an issue, really. I've dated women who are 2-3" taller.

Essentially it just narrows your market in the US, but looks, money, attitude usually make up for it.
 

Vaclav

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Height is truly a minor issue to many. My 5'2"-ness has never hampered me besides in confidence.

It's one of many reasons I'll peak at 7 or so though.
 

Jackie Treehorn

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I'm not fat. I do cardio but don't lift (too much work), 5'7"
TOO MUCH WORK? I thought it was one of the main tenants of the RedPillT movement. Browsing the Redpill reddit, it seems like the inhabitants are into doing all kinds of macho combat sports and weightlifting. Why aren't you on board?

Also, if I already weightlift, how can this wonderful RedPillT movement help me get women? I'm not a misogynistic prick right now, but I'd like to become one. I mean, I already get women, but I could stand to get more, you know?

I only wish I still owned an old Everquest CD case to take a pic with. I take issue with the fact that whole RP thing tries to turn you into some kind of hyper-masculine dildo, as if that's the only way to get women.

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Dumar_sl

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Where feminism went wrong.
Good post, and yup, the societal narrative that indoctrinates all of us to an egalitarian gender equalism is completely wrong and does not reflect reality, reflect nature.

Now, youcanbe this way; it is therightway to be in a purely idealized sense: an evolved self, choosing rationality entirely over evolved instinctual cues, treating women as equals in every sense (feminism demands us as all the same, just with different genitalia - completely erroneous).

The problem is if you're this type of completely rational, self-actualized person who exhibits kindness. consideration, overt rationality - the kind of person society tells men to be - you'll completely fail in ALL relationships because life is more feral, more base instinctual because we're animals and use that hindbrain perception of the world in relationships (esp women - they love the feels).
 

Dumar_sl

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TOO MUCH WORK? I thought it was one of the main tenants of the RedPillT movement. Browsing the Redpill reddit, it seems like the inhabitants are into doing all kinds of macho combat sports and weightlifting. Why aren't you on board?
It is for most RPers, yes. Would it help? Absolutely. The strategy I use is a little different than the meathead route, but make no mistake, being ripped gets the women. You should be getting them too with the amount of work you obviously do, instead of the 35yo princesses!

I only wish I still owned an old Everquest CD case to take a pic with. I take issue with the fact that whole RP thing tries to turn you into some kind of hyper-masculine dildo, as if that's the only way to get women
But see, that'swhat they subconsciously want from you. And they want that hyper-masculine dildo to be ripped, generally an asshole to them, to dominate them (hi 50 shades of grey). Because why? That's whatnature has selected for. It's not in women's conscious thought - they'll tell you they want the equalism spew I commented on above, but they do not, betrayed to them by their behaviors, which we can all observe.
 

Jackie Treehorn

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The problem is if you're this type of completely rational, self-actualized person who exhibits kindness. consideration, overt rationality - the kind of person society tells men to be - you'll completely fail in ALL relationships
I'm really nice to women and I get approached by and fuck hot ones - - while being nice to them. When I actually get into a relationship with one? I treat them well, and they appreciate it.

Then again I don't look like a neckbeard.

Do you see where this all breaks apart? The prevailing goal of RPers is to get women way the fuck out of their league, instead of taking someone like them, who they could actually have a healthy, loving relationship with, without having to try and be "alpha."

It is for most RPers, yes. Would it help? Absolutely. The strategy I use is a little different than the meathead route, but make no mistake, being ripped gets the women. You should be getting them too with the amount of work you obviously do, instead of the 35yo princesses!
I've been approached by women as young as 21 in recent history. One in particular was slim, attractive, and already had a university degree.

I don't want a 21 year old.

You don't seem to understand, I have options. I CHOOSE to date women my age (and down to as low as 27ish,) because I connect with them.
 

Abefroman

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So Dumar wants an honest discussion. I'm sure most here are fully aware of Dumar's post history and the fact he HATES FUCKING EVERYTHING. Imagine dating Dumar and being told that tv show you like sucks, that movie you want to see sucks, the game you want to play sucks, the country you live in sucks, your culture sucks. Does anyone here actually think he can have a conversation about anything without totally being negative?

You have an entire culture of people who have no balance and are just angry and bitter at everything and I guarantee that destroys just about every relationship. Imagine if a beautiful, rich, kind women who was related to Karl Marx told Dumar she thought EQ sucked? He'd kill her.