Grizzlebeard
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I think you're being somewhat unkind to a pretty talented and seemingly decent man.
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Rings of Power: Tolkien's Shambling Skinsuit
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I think you're being somewhat unkind to a pretty talented and seemingly decent man.
Lambourne
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Christopher Tolkien didn't think the book was suitable for adaptation to film so he was bound to be disappointed with anything made. He had a pretty severe falling out with his own son over the matter so he definitely comes across as harshly protective of the work.
Film is a different artform than a novel and some things just don't translate directly. Even simplest adaptation of a novel (an audiobook where an actor reads the entire text verbatim) has to deal with this. How does a character's voice sound? Is a character a fast speaker? Does he sound bold or contemplative? How should a song be sung when you have only the lyrics to go off of?
I think the LOTR trilogy is about as good as they could have been and they were made at exactly the right time. A decade earlier, he'd never have gotten the budget that he did and the CGI would have aged badly. A decade later, it'd be all CGI and have lost that authenticity you can only get from the masterful use of real props, sets and locations. Two decades later it has to all be mangled to insert The Message. Jackson curated things for adaptation but was respectful of the original work at least.
Film is a different artform than a novel and some things just don't translate directly. Even simplest adaptation of a novel (an audiobook where an actor reads the entire text verbatim) has to deal with this. How does a character's voice sound? Is a character a fast speaker? Does he sound bold or contemplative? How should a song be sung when you have only the lyrics to go off of?
I think the LOTR trilogy is about as good as they could have been and they were made at exactly the right time. A decade earlier, he'd never have gotten the budget that he did and the CGI would have aged badly. A decade later, it'd be all CGI and have lost that authenticity you can only get from the masterful use of real props, sets and locations. Two decades later it has to all be mangled to insert The Message. Jackson curated things for adaptation but was respectful of the original work at least.
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Chris
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Every time I hear about him, he is bitching about something trivial. Where is he now with this Amazon abomination happening?
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kroenen
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‘Rings of Power’ Showrunners Weren’t Interested in ‘LOTR’ Prequel: We Craved a ‘Blank Canvas’
Showrunners JD Payne and Patrick McKay explained why "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power" focused on a "blank canvas" for Prime Video.
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Co-showrunner Payne added, “It was one place that we were just laser-focused on saying, ‘We need to get this right.’ It’s never been seen before. People have some ideas of what elves look like or what dwarves look like and what those kingdoms might look like. But Númenor was, in some ways, a blank canvas.”
Amazon purchased the rights to a “50-hour show” for the adaptation which is set for at least a five-season run on streamer Prime Video.
“They knew from the beginning that was the size of the canvas…this was a big story with a clear beginning, middle and end,” Payne previously told Empire magazine. “There are things in the first season that don’t pay off until Season 5. We even know what our final shot of the last episode is going to be.”
He added, “It was like Tolkien put some stars in the sky and let us make out the constellations. We’re doing what Tolkien wanted. As long as we felt like every invention of ours was true to his essence, we knew we were on the right track.”
Fellow showrunner McKay called “The Rings of Power” the result of being “stewards” to the source material.
“The pressure would drive us insane if we didn’t feel like there was a story here that didn’t come from us. It comes from a bigger place,” McKay said. “We trust those ideas so deeply, because they’re not ours. We’re custodians, at best.”
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Sanrith Descartes
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The best thing about SJW Hollywood is I watch so much less TV and movies now.
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“We were not interested in doing a show about the younger version of the same world you knew, where it’s a little bit of a prequel,” McKay told Entertainment Weekly in a cover story. “We wanted to go way, way, way back and find a story that could exist on its own two feet. This was one that we felt hadn’t been told on the level and the scale and with the depth that we felt it deserved.”‘Rings of Power’ Showrunners Weren’t Interested in ‘LOTR’ Prequel: We Craved a ‘Blank Canvas’
Showrunners JD Payne and Patrick McKay explained why "The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power" focused on a "blank canvas" for Prime Video.
Co-showrunner Payne added, “It was one place that we were just laser-focused on saying, ‘We need to get this right.’ It’s never been seen before. People have some ideas of what elves look like or what dwarves look like and what those kingdoms might look like. But Númenor was, in some ways, a blank canvas.”
Amazon purchased the rights to a “50-hour show” for the adaptation which is set for at least a five-season run on streamer Prime Video.
“They knew from the beginning that was the size of the canvas…this was a big story with a clear beginning, middle and end,” Payne previously told Empire magazine. “There are things in the first season that don’t pay off until Season 5. We even know what our final shot of the last episode is going to be.”
He added, “It was like Tolkien put some stars in the sky and let us make out the constellations. We’re doing what Tolkien wanted. As long as we felt like every invention of ours was true to his essence, we knew we were on the right track.”
Fellow showrunner McKay called “The Rings of Power” the result of being “stewards” to the source material.
“The pressure would drive us insane if we didn’t feel like there was a story here that didn’t come from us. It comes from a bigger place,” McKay said. “We trust those ideas so deeply, because they’re not ours. We’re custodians, at best.”
Both bankers sons?
Or just personal friends of Bezos this time?
Chukzombi
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those two retards have never done anything that has seen the light of day. if i had to guess and thought bezos was a fag, i would say those guys are his buttbuddies. but even a buttbuddy you would not waste a billion dollars on to produce a TV show on your streaming service. you wouldnt use 2 guys with no experience either. this whole thing smacks of rich man's indulgence. "i want my own Tolkien TV show. make it happen!" a room full of yes men tell him they wil get right on it.
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Homsar
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This show reminds me of when my old company got sold. Forked out insane money and everyone that cared about the customer/job pretty much quit
They ruined the name of the business in 6 months which is what they paid for
They ruined the name of the business in 6 months which is what they paid for
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Tarrant
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I'm in the same boat. I know LotR and the Hobbit but know jack about the Silmarillion and am looking forward to the show since I have zero expectations. The trailer looked good to me and I'm looking forward to the show.
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Gavinmad
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I've yet to find a terrible sounding show you didn't look forward to.
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Tarrant
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I did not, I stopped watching a few episodes in because it wasn't very good imo.
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popsicledeath
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You didn't look forward to wheel of time? Just happened across it?
Edit: or are saying technically the difference now is you're admitting this sounds horrible but not other shows?