Science!! Fucking magnets, how do they work?

Melvin

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No, I'm not very educated on the subject at all. It does sound like the problem has been observed and a plan has been devised to control it and it is completely obvious, and works well when adopted, and its fish ranching. So why the doom and gloom about populations of wild fish?

Population of wild chickens ain't too hard to count either.
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Since 2000, 34 commercially and recreationally important fish stocks have rebuilt from an overfished status to healthy population levels.
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Unfortunately, 40 commercially and recreationally important federally managed fish populations remain at unhealthy levels.
Cherry picking which data you look at may lead you to believe the situation is better or worse than it really is. The NYT article says 2.8% of the ocean is being conserved; the Ocean Conservatory and CBS articles both say less than 1% is adequately protected. I think on top of that, the doom and gloom viewpoint isn't narrowly focused on specific numbers of specific fish. They're looking at the entire ecosystems and how the food webs need healthy populations of all the diverse organisms in them to continue filling their unique niches that we probably don't even completely understand yet. And then they're going all emo about it too.
 

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Grow the fish in crates and desalinate the ocean and pour bleach into it so it's like a clean pool! Burn the ice caps so the ocean is warmer!
 

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You seem like a good candidate for the american council for science and crazy people. Tell them weird scientist, what the people really think.
 

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Small update on the comet lander, including some pictures as it came in to land for the first time and a possible explanation for the high bounce

Little of the results have so far been released by the various instrument teams. The one major exception is MUPUS. This sensor package from the German space agency's Institute for Planetary Research deployed a thermometer on the end of a hammer. It retrieved a number of temperature profiles but broke as it tried to burrow its way into the comet's subsurface.

Scientists say this shows the icy material underlying 67P's dust covering to be far harder than anyone anticipated - having the tensile strength of some rocks. It also helps explain why Philae bounced so high on that first touchdown.

The 4km-wide comet has little gravity, so when key landing systems designed to hold the robot down failed at the crucial moment - the probe would have been relying on thick, soft, compressive layers to absorb its impact. However much dust it did encounter at that moment, it clearly was not enough to prevent Philae making its giant rebound.
BBC News - Comet lander: Camera sees Philaes hairy landing
 

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The low gravity on the comet explains why Ben Afflek's rover was able to jump as far as it did. Cool stuff.
 

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The Mars mission made a similar announcement and then pulled off it for some reason that I don't think they ever explained thoroughly but that the internet rumor factory came up with a few very good not tin foil hat explanations for what may have been going on. I have to assume indications, but nothing conclusive.

Which is good. It means at the very least the next generation of probes will have specific equipment that these didn't have. Because the question itself was such a longshot.

But maybe the europeans planned for that longshot. We shall see!
 

Tuco

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I've got no problem with comets hauling around life on them and think it's reasonable, but incredible claims require incredible evidence.
 

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I've got no problem with comets hauling around life on them and think it's reasonable, but incredible claims require incredible evidence.
Its far more likely that there's 'organic precursors' which aren't nearly as organic as we first presumed. Either way, that discovery would be amazing in its own right.
 

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Yeah it'd be weak if they said, "WE FOUND ORGANIC MOLECULES AND CAN'T REVEAL ANYTHING FURTHER PLZ STAY TUNED" then a week later they said, "We found a couple carbon atoms that were close to some hydrogen, METHANE CONFIRMED"

I don't know enough about chemistry to know what the precense of methane would prove, but as a layman, calling some 'organic molecules' entices me to think, 'molecules that probably came from organic tissue" or something.
 

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Yea, I'm sitting here thinking....uh, it's space, a lot of it has to be "organic". I've read a few theories about the left handed sugar w/e stuff, and how comets may be involved. They could find some evidence, but it won't be a big jump forward either way.